I am totally in for that, too. but how would you do it in practice? would you just rely on a fixed order of path variables which would ensure that a certain object is preferably loaded when you create an object, or would you just not ship some of the externals or rename them? I always thought the biggest problem to solve the nameclashes was that nobody ever got an overview of which objects are really existing in the different libraries. now more and more people get involved and sift through the libraries, so it should be possible to find all nameclashes and vote one as the default for pd-extended. what about an irc meeting maybe next tuesday 6pm(EU)/12pm(east)/9am(west). and then the usual proceedings: wikipage, finding volunteers to implement it, lazy consensus and done. (sorry for my militant course, I know it will never work like that...) marius.
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:53:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
2: don't use the full Pd-extended but strip it down to your needs (i personally use a barebone Pd and add 3 or so libraries - i still have an overview about what is loaded...)
I'm sometimes thinking about making a pd-condensed fork of pd-extended which includes only externals and abstractions without nameclashes. ;)
Same here! It would be good to have a distribution with a maintainer who is slightly less conservative than Miller about what goes in, but still keep it really tight. Maybe it would also be cool to see a "democratized" version of Pd where externals and libraries must be first nominated and then voted in by some requisite number of positive votes. For this to work I think we'd need to have people for each major GNU/Linux distribution who would do the work of the actual packaging and submission, separate to the building (My aims are totally selfish - I'd love to be able to apt-get install this).
Even more talking with no action (sorry Roman),
Chris.
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