yeah, but what chuck wants to know is WHICH objects are in his subpatch. so...if he puts a slider, 2 number boxes and 3 arrays in a subpatch, he needs something that will tell him that the subpatch contains a slider, 2 number boxes and 3 arrays.
and then in another subpatch there might be 6 number boxes all connected to a [pack] object going into a [send]
ssaad will only tell you the values OUTPUT by these objects...but it won't tell you WHICH objects are in place.