Re: [PD] call for translations for new Pd GUI

Hey András,

Thanks for that, just checked it in. Right now I want to get
different translations of for testing the charset issues. There will
be a longer template soon, once the audio/midi/startup/paths
preferences panels are added to the template.

.hc

On Aug 21, 2009, at 12:03 PM, András Murányi wrote:

Hello everybody,

I've attached a preliminary Hungarian translation. Pd internal terms
(Array etc) are left untouched. I would be happy to continue with a longer template, if any.

-- Muranyi Andras

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans@at.or.at wrote:

On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0.41... As for the license, I think we should just put them in the public
domain since it seems too much of a headache to manage the license
on them, or make it the same license as Pd.

Those 17 language files are derivative works from the 17
translations of DesireData, which involved about 20 authors. You
can't put other people's work in the public domain. You can't fail
to credit them either.

... and I mean you actually removed all credits from the translation
files when you migrated everything to msgcat. Why would that be?

Any .po editor will automatically add the credits to the .po file
once people edit the files.

I got these words from a number of sources, mostly DesireData but
also .po files from other projects. These are much smaller than the
DD files since the Pd text differs quite a bit. The DD credits were
in the original pd-devel .msg files since they were just copied
over, then edited. In the process of being converted to pd-devel
and back and forth from .msg -> .po -> .msg, the credits and most of
the old contents didn't get included. The credits from the DD files
were not included since they weren't in a standard format and I was
using the gettext tools. Feel free to add credits to the .po files
and commit them (the .msg files are automatically generated from
the .po files). Then all the gettext tools and .po editors will
keep them.

Right now, what's included is not a lot, like 30-50 words per
translation. Those 30-50 words that are the most common software
words like File, Edit, Window, Open, Save, Cut, Copy, Paste,
Properties, Close, Help, etc. You can't claim copyright on
translating those words, since there are thousands of other copies
of the exact same thing in other apps. You can claim copyright on a
complete translation, that's why I started the conversation now.

I forgot to add one detail, how to make a new translation:

1. Start with the template file:

http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0.41... 2) rename it to your locale, using the language and maybe country
code: - Bulgarian has only one locale, so the file would be bg.po - Chinese differs based on country, so it could be zh_CN.po,
zh_HK.po, or zh_TW.po 3) the file most be encoded using UTF-8

To run Pd-devel with your translation:

1. svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0....
2. stick your .po into 0.41.4/po/
3. cd 0.41.4/src/locale
4. ./generate-msg.sh (you'll need to have gettext installed)
5. cd ../.. (i.e. back in the root folder of the source, 0.41.4)
6. ./autogen.sh && .configure && make

Now to force it to run using a specific locale, do this on the
terminal:

1. export LANG=en_CA
2. cd 0.41.4/src
3. ./pd

.hc

<hu_HU.po>

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