On May 18, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On May 17, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Enrique Erne wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
There is much that can and should be done. Here's some ideas
ranked into of difficulty:
- file a bug report when a help patch is not working
- write and improve help patches, and submit them to the patch
tracker
is there a convention about how to make it work? i.e. should one
use declare, import or namespace prefix?i guess all help-files that are not loaded on default would need
a declare/import/or-namespace in order to work...i want to contribute and help to make "all"/more helpfiles work.
i know there is pddp but afaik it does not solve the declare/ import/or-namespace problem.could all developers express their opinion and agree on how to
make all helpfiles work? :)Starting with the PDDP template is a good place to start: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/doc/ pddp/templates/
i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd then it would work with pd vanilla too.
The declare/namespace/import stuff is still very undefined, so I
think some experiementation would be good. I think you should go
ahead and try it using what you propose. That will be a good test
case. Then we'll figure out what works best. Personally, I would use namespace prefixes: [mrpeach/packOSC].
This will make more sense when there are libraries organized
around concepts rather than authors. So something like [osc/packOSC]from a user point of view organizing libraries around concepts
would be a huge gain. but let's face it: will that every be the case? (rhetorical, but still i would be very happy if somebody has an
answer:) )
It will be the case if we make it happen. I have already started the
tkwidgets library, which you might guess from the title, is a set of
Tk widgets. ;) I also wrote the "pan" library, which is some
techniques for stereo panning.
.hc
i just found that: http://puredata.info/dev/PdLibraries http://puredata.info/dev/PdNamespaces
for now i don't know how to help and make the helpfiles work. :(
- add a search pane to the help panel
is this done in tcl/tk? is there any documentation about that on
puredata.info?It is done however you want to, more or less, but I think a pure
Tcl solution would be possible, and perhaps easiest. .hc
- help design and code a library format that bundles
objectclasses, helpfiles, manuals, examples, etc then write code
to index it all, and create a GUI to navigate that content At this point, I think it is mostly a waste of time to do
constant little workarounds like moving around objects. We
should be putting our scarce resources towards real
improvements, not temporary fixes, IMHO. .hc
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