With the below Ubuntu package all seems better - list has 2 inlets once more:)
Jb
On 21 January 2013 22:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
Also, does it happen if you use the Ubuntu/oneiric package (should work for wheezy, you might want to use quantal or raring for sid):
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+files/pd-extended_0.4...
.hc
On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
Yip yip - same here:
0.43.4-extended-20130107
WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have serious issues (cyclone, maxlib, moonlib, moocow, pdp, bsaylor, etc.) /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl/../startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'!
[list] has only one inlet.
Debian Sid/Wheezy 64b.
Best wishes,
Julian
On 21 January 2013 21:26, batinste dwanafite@yahoo.fr wrote:
Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get
error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load
startup
library'!
but :
~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list 1.list.pd_linux
So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10
x64 :
~$ sudo dpkg --purge pd-extended (Lecture de la base de données... 303007 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Suppression de pd-extended ... Purge des fichiers de configuration de pd-extended ... dpkg : avertissement : while removing pd-extended, directory '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra' not empty so not removed Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
hicolor-icon-theme
»... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
desktop-file-utils
»... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »...
in the extra directory are ANN library and the missing earplug_data.txt. It shouldn't interfere with the rest.
Then i removed preferences backups i did in my /home/me : .pdextended, .pdextended~, .pdextended.**thisoneactuallyworks, etc :)
Then, downloaded Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb from http://autobuild.puredata.**info/auto-build/latest/<
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/%3Eand
~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-**ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb Sélection du paquet pd-extended précédemment désélectionné. (Lecture de la base de données... 295934 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Dépaquetage de pd-extended (à partir de
.../Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb)
... Paramétrage de pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) ... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
desktop-file-utils
»... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
hicolor-icon-theme
»...
and finally :~$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose input channels = 0, output channels = 0 Pd-0.43.4 ("extended") compiled 09:20:08 Jan 20 2013 port 5400 TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tcl/library" TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tk/library" wish8.5 "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-**gui.tcl" 5400 priority 6 scheduling enabled. Waiting for connection request... priority 8 scheduling enabled. /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-**watchdog ... connected opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). input channels = 0, output channels = 0 Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.**conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup. verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**0.libdir.pd_linux tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9 verbose(3): compiled on Jan 20 2013 at 09:23:51 verbose(3): compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux tried ./
Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/
**Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
**Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried ./Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/
**Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
**Lp.pd_linux and failed tried ./Lp/
Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/
**Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
**Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried ./
Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/
**Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/
**Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/
**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed tried -meta.pd and failed error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't loadstartup
library'!
verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**extra tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.l_ia64 and failed tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.pd_linux and failed tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** extra' verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**pdlua tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded watchdog: signaling pd... verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen < claudiusmaximus@goto10.org> verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 20 2013 09:23:51 verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**tclpd tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0 verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** tclpd/tclpd.tcl... verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.tcl verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**vanilla tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and
failed
tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass
path
verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** vanilla'
If i try to open a new patch and create and [list], it has only one
inlet.
then i restart pd-ext, and If i try to open a new patch and [import
list],
i get
tried /home/batinste/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**list.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/list.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.pd_linux and succeeded verbose(3): [import] loaded library: 'list'
Then i try to create a [list], it has 2 inlets.
my .pdextended :
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: True noaudioout: True audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 callback: 0 blocksize: 64 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True npath: 0 standardpath: 1 verbose: 1 nloadlib: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags:
my /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.**pdextended :
audioapi: 1 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: cyclone loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: creb loadlib5: cxc loadlib6: iemlib loadlib7: list-abs loadlib8: mapping loadlib9: markex loadlib10: maxlib loadlib11: mjlib loadlib12: motex loadlib13: oscx loadlib14: pddp loadlib15: pdogg loadlib16: pmpd loadlib17: sigpack loadlib18: smlib loadlib19: unauthorized loadlib20: pan loadlib21: hcs loadlib22: jmmmp loadlib23: ext13 loadlib24: ggee loadlib25: iem_anything loadlib26: ekext loadlib27: flatgui loadlib28: chaos loadlib29: pdp nloadlib: 29 path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-**conf.d/dirs/TrueType npath: 1
if it's a bug, i'll happily file it.
On 21/01/2013 02:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:52 PM, batinste wrote:
On 20/01/2013 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On 01/20/2013 06:36 AM, batinste wrote:
> I was intrigued by this [$@< bug (mainly because i didn't knew about > this $@ > thingy), so i decided to give it a try. Attached is my test patch.
It
> crashes > on my ubuntu 12.10 64bits, Pd-l2ork version 20130111 compiled
13:18:07
> Jan 11 > 2013, way before reaching 1000 args. I launch it in my terminal
with :
> > ~$ pd-l2ork test-dollar-at.pd > > All i have to do is continuously move my mouse over the patch while > it's > running, and it will crash around 100 args. You can also try to play > with the > vslider, it will crash. OR (curiously), it won't crash when moving
the
> mouse, > but going in and out of edit mode or saving will make it crash... > > On a side note, look at the patch cord going out of the vslider : it > looks > weird to me, like attached a few pixels under the vslider, not
directly
> connected to it. > That's worth a bug report! It worked for me: I left it alone for a while and it went to 24817, then once I clicked in the patch, it crashed instantly. Batinste, could you file a bug report and include your patch?
ok !
Ok now, the fun part : > When i open this patch with pd-extended (Pd-0.43.4 > ("extended-20130118") > compiled 09:30:52 Jan 18 2013), [list] only has one inlet (it should > have 2, > given that it's supposed to behave like [list append]) and when i
want
> to see > [list]'s help file, pd-ext opens bang's help file... When i open the > same > patch with pd-l2ork, the lists do have 2 inlets. Oh, and pd-extended > happened > to display lists with their 2 inlets, but i can't reproduce this > reliably. I > tried to open the patch with -noprefs (to ensure that i didn't have
a
> forgotten [list] abstraction somewhere) same issue. > > Am i cursed or something ? > I've never seen the [list] with the single inlet bug. Can you send
me
a patch to reproduce it? I think that would happen if you run 'pd-extended -nostartup' which will prevent the list lib from being automatically loaded at startup.
-noprefs won't disable loading from ~/pd-externals or /usr/local/lib/pd-externals since that's hard coded in Pd.
.hc
oops my bad, i did not see this : error:
/usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/
**1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'! It was with the patch i attached earlier.
Where you able to fix that error? That file is definitely included in
the
packages that I've tried.
.hc
On 20/01/2013 07:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu >>> To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancsika@yahoo.com; 'Hans-Christoph
Steiner'
>>> hans@at.or.at >>> Cc: pd-list@iem.at >>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:21 PM >>> Subject: RE: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ? >>> >>> > Why not simply use pd-l2ork? >>>> >>>> I do, but possible reasons why someone might not use Pd-l2ork: >>>> * no binary for windows >>>> * no binary for OSX >>>> >>> On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment
on
>>> Linux >>> and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk >>> iteration. In >>> other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something >>> that can >>> be easily lost in a cross-platform effort with inadequate
developer
>>> support, >>> as I am sure Hans can attest to). At this point I would go as far
as
>>> challenge you to find something that does not work or exhibits a >>> buggy >>> behavior >>> >> $@ in msg box probably still crashes when incoming args > 1000
(same
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