true words!
Interestingly, the first reference in this discussion is to github.com. That site is itself a trap that will one day stop tolerating dissent, surely you all realise that?
Actually, there has been quite some controversy recently about GitHub's CoPilot project:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27676939
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27710287
(I don't necessarily agree with all the criticism, but it definitely is an interesting case study.)
for example, to make it impossible for a rogue team member to sell a project's trademark
I think Miller should register the "Pd" trademark before it's too late :-D
Christof
On 05.07.2021 11:33, Andy Farnell wrote:
I've said here and in other forums, there's much naivete around project governance in OSS. The FSF (hopefully in its refreshed configuration) really could offer some advisory guidelines. In today's predatory environment even sole developers need to think defensively around trademarks, patents, security and resilience of dev assets. FOSS organisations need more careful stucturing, for example, to make it impossible for a rogue team member to sell a project's trademark (as happened to Freenode.net, and now it seems Audacity).
Great as the GPL is, a licence alone is not enough.
Interestingly, the first reference in this discussion is to github.com. That site is itself a trap that will one day stop tolerating dissent, surely you all realise that?
Following the lamentable tale on HN, it seems audacity, a stand-alone editor that has no business running network code, is being booby-trapped with "telemetry for bug reports". That thin-end will allow a wedge that soon reports back "usage statistics", (like plugin lists that allow unique user fingerprinting), and eventually acts as a key activation for DRM and other corporate shitfuckery.
Unless the dev team rebel and tear it out right now I can see freenode.net happening twice this year.
My opinion is, Audacity ain't a great audio editor anyway. Most of the UI issues are not bugs but entrenched design decisions. I've always felt it was made by people who don't much real-world audio edtiting. Running an old copy of CoolEdit98 under Wine or Roger Dannenberg's Snd reminds me what a real audio editor should feel like.
A good fork would be one that stripped a lot of the features _out_ leaving a faster, more focused and less bloated editor called "Aud", or "Acity" to reflect that half the baggage has been dumped.
Of course most people don't use tools as I do, and the sad thing is that Audacity is a mainstay of the educational world. Probably millions of students rely on it for trimming, compression and file format conversion. It's the first thing I suggest to all my students on less technical courses as an easy-start editor. It seems a shame to throw that all away because of the greed of a few.
Andy
(new book: https://digitavegan.net)
On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 11:57:37PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
Indeed. This GitHub issue is very enlightening: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/discussions/880
Nobody knows who Muse Group really is. Their website doesn't even have an impressium: https://mu.se/
What seems to have happened is that Muse Group bought the Audacity trademark, made all (relevant) former contributors sign a CLA and obviously put the current developers under a NDA.
They did the same thing with MuseScore.
:-/
On 04.07.2021 22:04, Julian Brooks wrote:
Bad stuff ongoing with Audacity: https://fosspost.org/audacity-is-now-a-spyware/ https://fosspost.org/audacity-is-now-a-spyware/
Jb
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