On May 2, 2010, at 11:55 AM, András Murányi wrote:
2010/4/17 Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, András Murányi wrote:
One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI
widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow
for such kind of skinning, afaik.Tcl/Tk up to 8.4 allow some amount of configuration... at least much
more than has ever been used by anyone in pd.tk.Tcl/Tk introduced the TkTile toolkit, for which I've heard that the
big new feature is that you can skin it. I haven't tried it myself.
Meanwhile, I'm using Pd-Extended with Tcl/Tk 8.5 while, officially,
this very same version of Pd-Extended is said to "not support" Tcl/ Tk 8.5. On top of that, Miller still wants to support Tcl/Tk 8.3 for
some upcoming releases, and such things that were already becoming
obsolete in 2003.There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
Talk, talk, talk, it's only talk. Arguments, babble, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, it's only talk.
Well, lets be happy we have this wonderful ability to articulate
words... ;o) As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another
toolkit. The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other
core people are interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how
soon?
Tcl/Tk happens to be a good GUI toolkit for making cross-platform apps
that appear native on each platform. From my point of view, we should
just implement things better, changing the GUI toolkit is not going to
make as big a difference.
.hc
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