On 03/03/2014 01:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
I've looked seriously at data structures for the first time, and saw what Chris McCormick did with them, and I believe this is the way to go !
But you can't get notifications for mouseover or right-click events.
You also cannot get transparency or control the z-order among multiple
scalars. Nor scale or zoom without creating another complex and slow
wrapper on top of data structures.
Don't get me wrong-- you can do interesting things with scalars, and you can build a wave-editor that looks quite advanced compared to what a GUI in Pd typically looks like. But you cannot get anything that looks remotely like a modern or even decade-old commercial wave-editor.
So I'd rather the documentation didn't send people searching around the corners of the software for features that don't exist.
-Jonathan
Cheers,
Pierre.
2014-03-03 8:44 GMT+01:00 Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner@gmail.com mailto:billy.stiltner@gmail.com>:
seems like there was something about the way i made the wave editor that worked,i never tried overflowing the the things and my method is a hack of the pd file @xensynth and the lfo editor, otherwise holler at Mike Booth ala mmb. https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22billy.stiltner%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com <mailto:pimassat@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Jonathan, I found it following this path : help for [tabwrite] --> More_Info --> all_about_arrays --> Common uses for arrays in Pd Bummer, I thought somebody would come up with a secret table manipulation technique that would make this statement true... Cheers, Pierre. 2014-03-02 19:33 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com <mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com>>: From that help patch: #X text 12 115 HELP_PATCH_AUTHORS Updated for Pd 0.38-2. Jonathan Wilkes revised the patch to conform to the PDDP template for Pd version 0.42. I did the refactoring of that patch, but I'm not sure who wrote what you're quoting. I'd say that statement is false and should be removed. -Jonathan On Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:47 AM, Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com <mailto:pimassat@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear list, I am working on a small patch which stores simple events in a table to trigger sounds later on. I would like to be able to edit the content of my table easily, which requires scrolling it, zooming in, and eventually editing the content. I have found away of scrolling the content, but it is very slow with relatively big tables (hem, even with a table with 20 000 samples...). Please see the example attached. I have 2 questions : 1) Is there a more efficient way of doing this ? Copying only part of the content is worse (i've tried). 2) Can I prevent the content of the table from spilling over the table to right of the left ? I get the same behaviour in a GOP, and putting a canvas next to the table to cover it doesn't work because the table content gets redrawn on top of it. This leads me to a more general question about something i've found in the help : "5 Wave editing: with proper manipulation of array data, Pd can be fully functional wave editor, complete with mouse-clickable cut-n-paste, pitch-shift, time expansion, down/upsampling, and other tools typically found in commercial wave editors." This has always sounded very appealing to me, but i wonder how realistic this statement is... unless i'm ignoring 80 % of what can be done with tables in Pd. Cheers, Pierre. _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list