On 08/30/2013 06:46 PM, Thomas Mayer wrote:
Hi,
On 29.08.2013 15:53, day five wrote:
Agree but what alternative do you suggest ?
I just wanted to make the list aware of the problem.
Maybe github?
Another point-- isn't Hans working on a decentralized thingy called Sparkle that's based on git? Is it possible to "host" Pd using that?
Perhaps sooner or later monetization is inevitable for all open source proyects. What hope is there for "free" software when global currency models are rapidly deteriorating. There are always those who would wish to capitalize on another's work much like an parasite.
It is one thing to sell free software or make money for distributing it you did not code yourself, this is absolutely fine behaviour, e.g. commercial Linux distributions. But using spyware or adware is not an acceptable behaviour, although it is still compatible with Pd's license.
Well, the first thing to do would seem to be migrate all of Pd svn to git.
Do you think that bitbucket or github are any better ? Who is to say that some minutes down the road they will not do the same.
I cannot vouch, that any commercial service will not do the same of course. Github e.g. stopped supporting downloads of binaries a few months ago.
It would not be much work to setup mirrors for hosting the code, and in any event migrate to yet another service, but there are other things to consider: There is the bug tracker that is hosted by Sourceforge, then binaries, people and their accounts and access rights, etc.
bug tracker is certainly an issue and will just take work to migrate it somewhere.
-Jonathan
As I have said before, I just wanted to spark a discussion, I do not suggest a fix right now.
Best regards, Thomas
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Thomas Mayer <thomas@residuum.org mailto:thomas@residuum.org> wrote:
Hello, Sourceforge's new owner tries to persuade top projects to use a closed source installer that includes spyware / adware: http://www.gluster.org/2013/08/how-far-the-once-mighty-sourceforge-has-fallen/ IMHO this in not a good place to host a true free software project any more. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Thomas -- "In an era when everything can be surveiled, all we have left is politeness." (Major Napier in: Neal Stephenson: The Diamond Age) http://www.residuum.org/ _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list