On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Should we let snarkiness end this discussion? I thought it was
actually pretty productive til this little bit...You can still work around my comments, and continue this discussion,
but what I'm trying to say is that you can't necessarily just wave
some word like "intuitive" and explain nothing about why you use it
and expect people to just nod and call it productive.Go be productive with your intuitivity if you will, but when I make
a comment like that, it's because I'm concerned that something is
going the wrong way. I don't mock for the sake of mocking.If there can't be any disapproval of your ways, then why do you look
like you want to get some approval at all? You can simply change the
numberbox in pd-extended so as to suit your fancy and that would be
the end of the story.Now if you could simply present your reasons to believe that a
numberbox may be unintuitive to beginners in a way so significant
that it warrants avoiding it, ... it sounds curious, so, I'm
curious. Do you think sliders are nonintuitive as well? Pd's sliders
are pretty nonstandard as far as UIs go.
I've taught Pd quite a bit at this point, and I have watched many
people not understand the number boxes as a interactive GUI element.
Its based on my experience, that's all. There is no scientific
process behind it. It is also based on my experience learning Pd,
back in the day. I remember it took me a while before I could get the
examples working, and I had been working with Csound, Cmix, MusicKit
and others before, so I was quite familiar with the concepts.
.hc
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