I beg to differ.
I must say that after doing a lot of annoying copying and shifting and
all that,
that the semisimplicity of Hans' installer has been wonderful. And
because I
just tried PixelTango, I was impressed that even more things are
installed
automagically.
It would, however, be good to have instructions of how to update easily.
cheers,
tim
On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Lorenz Schori wrote:
hi hans & james, hi list
i appreciate the efforts you two do for packing pd for osx.
pd-extended really helped me to jump into pd a little while ago.
however allow me to give some comments:
- the osx package is not the right place for externals. i suggest
using standard "Library/Application Support" directory. 2. it does not make much sense to distribute all externals together.
while it is okay for standard ones (the ones in the build system),
pdp, gem, flext and other complex packages will likely have to be
updated/changed in closer intervals. i propose to just provide pd core with standard externals (identical
to millers distribution) + better tcl/tk, packing only externals and
tell the user to install those into the right place. then a simple
install script wrapping "defaults write" (as a suggested before) would
make sure that the path and lib settings in pd point to the right
place. i did not look into the documentation mechanism of pd, so i
think there will be the real problem of my approach.comments welcome.
cheers lorenz
Am 24.10.2005 um 06:24 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
Lots of good fixes, thanks Jamie. I'll be incorporating them into
the main build system soon. Some comments:
- When I use the Help->Browser menu, it seems to be copying a ton of
files each time I use the menu. I know that Miller introduced this
hack for Mac OS X with 0.39, but it seems to have gone wild with
pd++.
- It runs for me on 10.3.9, including Gem, but I can't get the new
Gem window behavior to work. For me, its still the old-style,
Cmd-click to move and never gain focus.
- can you post how you compiled pdp/pidip somewhere? Ideally, I
think we'd import a stable version of pdp into the CVS (currently, it
seems to be pdp 0.12.2) so this could become part of the standard
build system..hc
On Oct 21, 2005, at 12:37 PM, james tittle wrote:
http://homepage.mac.com/tigital
...in the puredataStuff directory there is an archive containing
pd++0.39-1Beta.tgz...this is built in a similar way to Hans'
releases, but includes a ton of fixes, such as:
- the flext system is now working, but only xsample/dyn~/pool
included atm
- uses tcl/tk 8.4.10
- 10.4.x only, as far as I can tell
- pdp 0.12.4 & pidip 0.12.19 both included (static linked libs)!
mainly used via the pdp/gem bridges, but [pdp_glx] should also
work...also don't forget [pdp_ieee1394] for video input, with fixes
(more to come)
- pdp2gem, gem2pdp, pix_2pdp
- latest gem, zexy, miXed, cyclone cvs
- gem window is now "frontable", so it [gemmouse] works (and it
generally behaves like a real window should)
- tons of externals from cvs: I'll try to produce a list
...comments welcome! Especially interested to see if this fixes
some "slow interface" problems people have complained about of
late...l8r, james
ps: as soon as I can sort out a problem with scons, devel_0_39 will
be available (and of course desiredata after that!)
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