hi, something happened twice today, which i have never seen before: an object (xgroove~) was magically converted to a comment. the first time i just draged the object with the mouse and it lost its box (just inlets were shown bot not the box around the text xgrove. and when i reopened the patch all connections were lost and xgrove~ was a comment. and the second time i just saved the patch and after reopening it was again a text/comment. very strange.... i am still using 0.36. i think it is a problem of xgrove~. the error occurs when i try to shift xgrove with the mouse during it is playing. marius.