Ok, I think I should clarify the Pd distros:
Pd-core
this is sources that Miller maintains. It includes a basic set
of objects
Pd-devel
this is based on based on Pd-core, but has a number of
significant changes
Pd-extended
This is Pd-core with some minor patches and "externals", docs,
etc. from CVS
Pd-devel-extended (coming soon)
This is Pd-devel with "externals", docs, etc. from CVS
All of these are maintained in the same CVS repository. Pd-core from
Miller only has the objects that he's included. There are probably
2000 objects that are not included in Pd-core (many of which are
written in Pd) which are in Pd*-extended.
If you want to use all of the externals, we will all be better off if
we work on the same package. It takes a lot of work to maintain your
own distro, if we work on the same distro, we both will have a better
distro than if we did it ourself.
.hc
On Apr 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
hi,
don't mind about the rants. each small step helps a bit, when the
process is made this way.Then there's the question that didn't got answered: I guess it
might be easier to compile pd-extended (since it's already above
0.39 it's ok) than directly from cvs, or it won't be possible to
keep the externals up to date. But what's the difference from pd- extended and the cvs version? are any externals missing, or just
the outside work, like abstractions, documentation, etc.? I'm thinking now of using the pd-ext as main program, and in a
folder download the remaining material from cvs (and then put
everything into path). Is this a sensible method, or should I think
about something else instead?Joao
I don't think your work was a waste of time at all, this is what
we all to towards making Pd easier to use for all. If you want
some perspective, look back at the way you used to install Pd:http://web.archive.org/web/20010404044612/http://www.pure-data.org/
The only way to get Pd was to download the sources and compile
them yourself. There is now 2000+ objects included in Pd- extended, there is the work of perhaps 100+ people. Its big and
complicated, so that means that building it is not simple.The effort that you put into getting things working on Ubuntu and
documenting it helps us find bugs, make improvements, and future
people can start with your doc and hopefully take it further.We aim to make Debian and Ubuntu (or whatever) packages of Pd- extended, but someone has to do the work. The more people who
contribute, the faster that will happen. These things are not
hard to install by design, but rather because no one has done the
work to make it easy yet.As for successful compilation on GNU/Linux, if someone else has
done it, you can too. But yes, it can be a painful process.
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