I don't have any ATMEGA8 boards anymore, so I am not in a position to
maintain that stuff. Perhaps you could just bundle up the version you
got working, call it StandardFirmataAtmega8 and post it somewhere?
.hc
On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Derek Holzer wrote:
Once I fixed the baudrate (thx!!!) it works fine. One student has
trouble with an ATMEGA328 that I will have to troubleshoot tomorrow.Good idea to make a specific release, or at least label it in some
way that makes it clear. I know it's ugly to support very old
hardware, but I think there are a lot of those things out there in
the world still.Best, D.
On 3/10/10 7:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Keep in mind this is beta software so you were just a beta tester. It would be great to incorporate your experience into the next release.
Perhaps the best way to support the ATMEGA8 is to post a firmware
for it somewhere, like StandardFirmataATMEGA8. It would just be OldStandardFirmata/StandardFirmataV2_0 renamed to
StandardFirmataATMEGA8 and with the baud rate of 57600.What is only a question of the ATMEGA8? Or where there other
problems?.hc
On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
Hi HC,
thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it
in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the
ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow.I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a
glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss!I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-)
Best from Helsinki! D.
Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:
On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff.
The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching.
No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it.
With Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release.The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata
then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the
site where the Pd stuff is downloaded?For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in Arduino 0018.
And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them
something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not
documented. So yes I get a bit cranky!Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8. StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that
is too big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend
avoiding the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community..hc
Peace out dudes, D.
2010/3/10 Derek Holzer derek@umatic.nl
> Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the
> Firmata in > Arduino > 18 then? > > Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-)
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