Why can't it be user assignable? That would also open the door to hotkeys, which would really speed up development in PD.
martin pichlmair wrote:
hi,
My impression is that the naming is different. The Windows Alt is apparently equivalent to the MacOS Command, whereas the Windows AltGr is the equivalent of the MacOS Alt.
the apple-correct ways of handling keys can be found in the human
interface guidelines:http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/ OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGUserInput/chapter_2_section_3.html#//apple_ref/doc/ uid/TP30000361/TP22
--------------------------- >8 ---------------- Option (=alt) When used with other keys, the Option key produces special symbols. The
Option key can also be used with the mouse to modify the effect of a
click or drag. For example, in some applications pressing Option while
dragging an object makes a copy of the object.Command Pressing the Command key at the same time as a character key tells the
application to interpret the key as a command rather than a character.
It can also be used with the mouse to modify the effect of a click or
drag. Key combinations that use the Command key are described in
“Keyboard Shortcuts”.Control The Control key is used to modify the functions of other keys. Combined
with a mouse click, it displays contextual menus (see “Contextual Menus”). --------------------------- >8 ----------------so obviously pd should use _only_ the command key on osx for all the
stuff that is in the menus - like creating new objects, windows and the
like.alt can be used for everything that has to do with dragging ...
ctrl-clicking is handled quite right but maybe using alt instead of
control to trigger messages in the edit view might work good (but that
is working quite good as it is).If this is true, it's probably best to stop using "alt" accelerators, at least on Mac and Windows, although perhaps they could stay as they are on linux.
I'd rather have Alt mean the same as in Windows/KDE/GNOME. Not so much by consistency with popular systems, than because I'm sure a lot of Pd
users would looove more keyboard shortcuts in general.a possible way would be to use ctrl (or alt or ctrl+shift) on win+linux
and cmd (or cmd+shift) on the mac. as i am working on linux and mac i
am already used to press cmd instead of ctrl for a lot of tasks. i'm
surely not the only one. just having _one_ accelerator should be the goal.But I think I'd rather have user-definable accelerators and such. (It's been on my TODO list for too long).
reasonable defaults are the basics of every good interface. users can
change it anyway in an open source project but most will not do so.
and: if it is done well we can spare the user to _have to_ do it.lg martin
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