Hi,
Would you have told this joke in a room with children within earshot? I hope not. The pd-list should be thought of a such a room. It's a room with many many different people of different ages and sexes, with different cultural backgrounds. It's a room where anybody is free to come and hear about Pure Data and share and learn, not where they come to be told offensive jokes. It's a room where it would be really nice if everyone's 12 and 15 year old sisters who want to learn about Pd felt completely comfortable.
This list is about a versatile audio visual tool. I can think of absolutely no good reason why anybody who wants to learn about a versatile audio visual tool should have to feel offended or threatened here. I guess the key is to remember that not everybody here is just like you. Not everyone is offended, or not offended by the same jokes. Not everyone is interested in the same things.
Yes, I am asking you to self censor. Just like you would self censor when you visit your grandmother. I am asking you to show some universal respect and consideration, which is not very difficult at all. If you want to express those kinds of things, please choose a different audience and forum, as this one is on the whole, not interested.
Best regards,
Chris.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 03:26:34PM -0400, vade wrote:
Its a joke. Get over it. Comedians do it at venues of over a 1000 all
the time. Ever hear of George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Eddy Murphy (back
when he was funny..), etc etc.Whether or not the PD list is the place for this, well, frankly, I'll
agree it isnt, but that was my point about 3.5^10 emails ago - this
thread is mind boggingly off topic - but that did not stop
discussion over such amazingly interesting topics as the etymology of
sexism, constructive comments about street jargon, academia and fun
statistics over who applied and got accepted to what.Jesus fucking christ, its a joke about CONSENSUAL SEX USING PD
OBJECTS AS A METAPHOR. OH NO. OH DEAR GOD OH MENSTRUATION. OH YUCK
BOO HOO.No one notices Hard off also making fun of himself there. Ah, so
typically one sided.Look. We are all humans. Some of us have vaginas, others penises. (hell some even have both) Some of us use PD and/or other Dataflow languages. Can we PLEASE GET OVER IT ALREADY?
That email was more a comment on the lunacy of the aforementioned
thread as well as some of you over intellectualizing every goddamn
last minutiae of the topic - rather than an actual genuine heartfelt
AFFRONT TO ALL OF WOMANKIND.Perhaps if you took of your lab coat, removed the various PHDs from
behind your desk, and any other assorted academic paraphernalia that
may be laying about* - including the self righteousness - you might
see that last email as an attempt to cut through the bullshit of this
topic. Im sorry I have to spell it out for you.*I am well aware that you and others may literally have said items
behind your potentially non existing desk, however, I hope you can
all grok the metaphor - somehow I feel ill be disappointed yet again...The bottom line is, if PD is going to be used by Artists, prepare to
be offended.On Oct 26, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:
I think the post and this attitude has no place on this list. The
use of objects is smart but it doesn't excuse the moronic and offensive
nature of the post. What makes you think that your freedom of speech should
come at the expense of women feeling violated and insulted? I wonder if
you would state something like that before a crowd of 1000. I feel disgusted.Alexandre
Haha. That made my day. Well done.
Yeah, calling him a virgin, real original.
On Oct 26, 2007, at 6:39 AM, hard off wrote:
i went to the [pool] last week, and met this zexy girl, she was a real GEM - a totally rradical chick.
We started to [swap] some glances, and not being one to do anything [unauthorized], i asked her, "hey, do you want to [route]?"
..she said "sorry it's that [time] of the month"
and i said, "hey, don't worry, i can part your red sea like [moses]"
..she gave me a [stripnote], so i pulled down her panties, opened
her [spigot], and then after a bit of a [delay] we got [hip~] to [hip~] and had a good ol' fashioned [bang] .after several minutes with our bodies in a tight [wrap~], she asked to [change] positions, so i took out my [vslider] from her
[openpanel] and put her on the kitchen [table].she was ready to [receive] my [pipe] again. so i thrust my [outlet] into her [inlet], stopping occasionally to [switch~] positions, [until] finally she let out a loud [noise~] and i shot my
[loadbang].
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