Hi,
I have looked at some of the dataflow languages, and I found them awkward too. It might be that I am too accostumed about how things are in Pd, but I think that MAX/Pd is one of the best paradigms for doing graphical programming.
In the long run I think the best solution would be some hybrid between graphical and textual programming (similar to the scripting extensions that exist for Pd), but more integrated.
And, of course a core set of complete data structures and object to manipulate them.
Well, anyhow, I think it is an interesting topic, and obviously for some people it is the only way they are willing to learn to program, so it definitely has its place.
Guenter
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, John Nowak wrote:
Does anyone know of a general purpose graphical dataflow language, possibly bleeding-edge? Sort of like a PD for everything? Prograph is sort of like this, but there are many aspects of it I do not like, and it is ancient and no longer used as far as I can tell. I personally think PD-like models for programming would be useful in a general purpose context, provided the language had a few additions made to it to support larger programs and more reusable code (which I've recently briefly outlined on the Max list if anyone is over there as well).
So then... anyone know of anything, or is it back to Scheme for me then? I truly believe a "GPGDL" is a viable thing, and I'd love to see it happen one day if it hasn't already. We're getting very close with environments like Max, LabVIEW, etc. I would like to see someone go all the way.
- John Nowak
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