ok thanks for all these remarks, then if i understood you well, you point out pbs with gnome/kde and upgrades in Ubuntu (by the way installing kde from (G)Ubuntu is a one step process: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop).
may i just add that my experience of Ubuntu showed me that :
performances reasons and provides a clear interface :-).
/apt/get/sources.list), it is quite sure that you won't end up with an unstable system.
finally, i would just like to say that Ubuntu is a good choice for debian/linux beginners (like me). I would agree with you Frank, that one would probably get more freedom with a genuine debian install or a gentoo for example, but still, it seems to me that it requires a substantial extra-amount of knowledge and time.
best, vincent
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, vincent rioux hat gesagt: // vincent rioux wrote:
And well, i was using ubuntu - that i would recommend for its simplicity (i found it quite easy and reliable to setup a debian-like install this way).
Frank, could you may be explain a bit more what were your thoughts concerning this distro?
Maybe I'm just spoiled by the recent upgrade of my Ubuntu laptop, where a lot of stuff broke, like all fonts were displayed way too large, I got german menus instead of english ones, and when I changed the locale, I couldn't type umlauts anymore etc. Everything was really annoying, because I already had configured all that to my liking months ago and now I had to do it again.
Worse yet: Configuring something on (G)Ubuntu means using Gnome, which often doesn't let you configure everything you want, at least not, if it's considered to be esoteric like using a german keyboard with an otherwise english-language desktop.
So I'm pretty disappointed with the upgrade behaviour, which seems to work flawlessly only, if you're a typical Ubuntu/Gnome user. And I think, many Pd/audio users are not typical Gnome or KDE users. A machine, which will be used in performances or installations with Pd probably won't have (to have) Gnome or KDE installed at all. That's why personally I wouldn't recommend to use Ubuntu on such a "performance" machine, but of course, YMMV.
Additionally it seems, that cross-upgrades from Ubuntu to Debian are very tricky. I'm currently trying to do that to convert my laptop's system to a real Debian again.
Ciao