Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite testing

On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Rich E wrote:

Still in OS X 10.6. I don't have one of these problems with Pd- devel-0.43 (dec 15) nightly build, so it must all be because of the
tk/cocoa version that you mention. I'm not sure how to report it a
tcl mailing list, as I don't know where the code is that implements
these things.

Does it make sense that the arrow keys are detected differently in
Tk/Cocoa, so they are just sent to pd's gui C code as spaces?

Not to me... it should be the same, that's why its worth reporting to
tcl-mac. You don't need to know the exact code that's causing the
problem. I read that list too, so I can fill in the details. I just
don't have access to a 10.6 machine these days.

As for the text color issue in the audio settings, you'll have to
point me towards what is controlling that. I'll send you a
screenshot after this email.

Check out dialog_audio.tcl. Its still mostly the original code, so it
can be scary. ;)

Do you know how I can force configure to use Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon?

If you put a version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon frameworks into /Library/ Frameworks, it should use them over the build in ones. But that means
using the Makefile in packages/darwin_app and running "make install".
For development, I just rename a nighly build as "Pd-devel.app" then
inside the package, remove some guts and symlink it to my pd-gui- rewrite/0.43 sources:

hans@palatschinken.at.or.at:src > ls -l /Applications/Pd-devel.app/ Contents/Resources/ total 152 lrwxr-xr-x 1 hans staff 3 2010-01-05 14:27 Scripts -> bin/ -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 47204 2008-08-14 20:03 VolumeIcon.icns -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 545 2008-07-21 13:53 Wish.rsrc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 59 2010-01-05 14:32 bin -> /Users/hans/ code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/src/ dr-xr-xr-x 13 hans staff 442 2009-12-15 08:41 doc/ dr-xr-xr-x 180 hans staff 6120 2009-12-15 08:52 extra/ dr-xr-xr-x 6 hans staff 204 2009-12-15 08:41 include/ -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 42741 2008-02-14 18:14 pd-file.icns -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 37100 2008-02-14 18:14 pd.icns lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 58 2010-01-05 14:31 po -> /Users/hans/ code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/po/ dr-xr-xr-x 3 hans staff 102 2009-12-15 08:41 share/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 63 2010-01-05 14:31 startup -> /Users/ hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup/

.hc

I'll use the nightly build in the meantime and let you know what
comes up.

-rich

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans@at.or.at wrote:

First off, which platform? Is this still Mac OS X 10.6? If so,
10.6 has a built-in custom version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7 that uses Cocoa
for the back end rather than Carbon. Tcl/Tk 8.6 will only use this
Cocoa backend, but will work on Mac OS X 10.5. It would be good to
flush out these bugs and report them to the tcl-mac list so that
they can get fixed.

One thing to try is using one of the nightly builds, which include
Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon. I think they should work on 10.6: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Rich E wrote:

Hi List, Hans,

I've been using the pd-gui-rewrite-0.43 svn for a couple days now
and here are some notes I've taken when finding various bugs (is the
better sent to the pd-dev list?):

• In Audio Settings, the text in the drop down menus is hardly
visible because it is very light grey

Never seen that, screenshot?

• there is a new menu item called 'apple' with "about pd" and
preferences"

Known issue with the Tk/Cocoa, haven't found a workaround yet.

• editing an object name: ‣ moving with arrows adds a space to the end, but does not move
within the object name

Hmm, can't reproduce, Tk/Cocoa issue?

• opening "about pd" gives an error: ‣ Error: can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable" ‣ an't read "pd_myversion": no such variable can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable while executing "regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3" (procedure "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext" line 15) invoked from within "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename"" (".txt" arm line 1) invoked from within "switch -- [string tolower [file extension $basename]] { ".txt" {::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/ $basename" } ".c" {::..." (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 4) invoked from within "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual 1.introduction.txt" (menu invoke)

Its not implemented yet... I was hoping to make "About Pd" a pd
patch.

I have some time on my hands now that I finished my Master's, and
frankly I think the pd-vanilla GUI is unpleasant, so I could learn
tcl/tk and help out, if needed.

That would be great! Your reports have already been helpful. I'm
going to be in pretty deep this month till its finished and merged
into Miller's 0.43 version. He's been relatively scarse on the
lists, but we've been working thru this stuff off-list.

.hc

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