On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:32:02 -0600 "Kyle Klipowicz" kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
I like this idea. MPEG4-SA has always seemed like vaporware that will never get accepted, but maybe someday it will be...perhaps Pd would be a better framwork than Music N.
I followed it intently for a while back in 96, from Caseys sketch and then MIT sort sat on it. There's some tools for development on Berkley, but it's been cold for years. Again and again my work keeps coming back to "something like MPEG4", a way of not just describing sounds, but brokering them as remote objects. I think the problem with SA is that got cast as a "delivery tool" and that's not what it is (for me). A pd file, being a netlist of predefined objects is very efficient, I was realising when running a script on my pd files to see how many arithmentic or control objects were being used, it turned out about 70% of everything was multiplys [*] or [*~], closely followd by [phasor~], well my impression was that most things could be described by about 20 or 30 objects. And if you use some obscure object like [uncompilable~] the client should send a wtf? to the server who sends the DSP object.
Kudos to keeping it vanilla too, because you're right about the portability issue with that. So when are we getting native Pd matrix and storage objects (besides textfile/qlist)?
~Kyle
On 12/6/06, padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:58:48 +0100 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:
I keep seeing Pd as vital part of what MPEG4-SA was always supposed to be, but never really achieved; a way of delivering music as code for clientside evaluation. Presumably they play OK for everyone, that's just the upshot of writing only in "Miller Vanilla" and avoiding any externs not in the most basic distros.
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