What I said about 2 months ago is:
- At that time the main used RPi OS was/is v.11 32-bit (based on Debian
Bullseye).
- This OS was/is largely used on all RPi H/W, either 32-bit and/or
64-bit capable.
Since RPi OS 12 64-bit (based on Debian Bookworm) became official on 11th Oct. 2023 https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/bookworm-the-new-version-of-raspberry-pi-os/, this one will slowly but surely replace RPi OS 11/12 32-bit on the compatible hardware; i.e. 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 4B, 400, 5, CM3, CM3+, CM4, CM4S, and Zero 2 W.
My RPi 400 (4 GB RAM) has a chip-set which can run both 32 and 64-bit OSs. Up to about 2 months ago I was only running under RPi OS 11 32-bit, as recommended by the RPi Foundation (64-bit was not considered as being enough completed). Now I'm also running under RPi OS 12 64-bit but this one is still buggy vs. the previous 32-bit version.
Regarding Pd/Deken (I built it from the source code), I was obliged for both RPi OS 11 32-bit and RPi OS 12 64-bit to change the default platform to a user-defined platform to be able to get access to a larger externals offer.
During my Pd 0.54-1 compilation under RPi OS 12 64-bit I got: pd 0.54.1 is now configured Platform: Linux Float size: default ... Deken identifier: linux-arm64 ...
After my today RPi OS 12 64-bit system update, I have: OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64 Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0 Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi8_-rpi-v8 -when just few hours ago I had- OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64 Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0 Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi7_-rpi-v8 -when just after this OS installation I had- OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64 Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0 Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi6_-rpi-v8
I hope this clarifies a little bit my previous writings. 😉
The Pd/Deken platform detection issue remains open.
Le 03/02/2024 à 16:18, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie linux.rouen@free.fr wrote:
Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again please :) I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64 bits is really rare
Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi OS 12 64-bit (Debian Bookworm). At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this platform, except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6. This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source code including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~]. Here my understanding is for seeing the available librairies in Deken we need to change the Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' to the User defined-platform 'Linux-arm64-32'. See the attached screen capture.But shouldn’t it get it right without this?
Best, Joseph ---------- Le 03/02/2024 à 07:39, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :Hi, to add on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in private and I asked him to bring this to the list. First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for a while now. Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that it'd be really rare for someone to use it, and Francisco is using it and needs it, so I'd like to get this straight. Apparently I should bother and offer these binaries again. Francisco, do you know why you need this and not something else? Joseph, can you join in the discussion and tell us again why this should not be necessary? Last release I have with 'armv8' binaries is rc6, still up in deken. Francisco confirmed they work, but it doesn't show up for him! I am now about to release rc11, and I keep only the 5 last releases in the serve so I don't take too much space, so rc6 is about to be deleted. I just uploaded (after Francisco's email) rc11 binaries for pi (armv6, armv7 and armv8). It's up in deken... I dont think I need the 3 of them, but is seems I need at least 2, right? Now, these uploaded packagee misses 4 objects, [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~]. I need help compiling them for armv8 and whatever ELSE I need to provide, so what we have up there now is just a *test* until we can figure things out. The dekn system uploaded the packages as 'Linux-arm64-32 / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32'. Francisco seems to need 'Linux-arm64-32', ('armv8'), and it doesn't show. Em sex., 2 de fev. de 2024 às 21:50, Francisco Medeiros <excalibas@gmail.com> escreveu: Deken is not showing the ELSE external, nor many other externals available for Linux-Arm64-32. see? When starting deken says Platform detected: Linux-aarch64-float32" and "Platform re-detected: Linux-armv8-float32". Why both? Now I wonder that maybe it should have detected 'Linux-arm64-32' instead? I don't know... cheers