hi, I use this hack right now to get the console output into pd: ./pd 2>&1 | while read line; do echo "${line};" | ./pdsend 1235 localhost udp; done but maybe someone knows a better solution (that would allow normal printout to the pd window at the same time). best solution would probably be [stderr] object that grabs everything that is printed to the console and spits it out on an outlet. marius.