Shut UP! Everyone.
We all know that a large proportion of the computers in the world run Windows. Pure Data is not elitist, apart from the French pronunciation of PD which was an
anti-elitist statement in the first instance.
We are not in the business of saying who can and who cannot use this software, otherwise it would just be another Max/MSP and we'd have to email our DNA to IRCAM or Cycling74 in order to log onto our computers every time. (I was born in
'74 - I resent their use of my birth-year, but I do not try to patent it).
This Ideological discussion is dead, and it has been dead for as long as I can remember. PD is BSD for Miller because of his ironic involvement with MSP, and GNU for everyone else. Don't clog the list with ideology. We are not a Tea Party.
PS the Pope is in the UK, and still talking about the Nazis. He is a 20th century relic. Do not become that. Use flexibly your status, and we might just have a point!
Get over it, and love or hat each other openly. Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon!!
----- Original Message ---- From: patko colet.patrice@free.fr To: Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Fri, 17 September, 2010 15:40:10 Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!
Konichiwa,
Windows in itself is very crappy, it's not really about multimedia, almost everything isn't good on this platform, maintaining a list of crappy things on windows would just be a waste of time.
Just stop removing fresh air from windows users when they can find in it applications like PureData, when they are available on this crappy platform.
Also the little cd isn't able to handle any computer hardware, without a little bit of knowledge about what is X server for example, Or simply without the matching hardware.
(please don't read this serioulsy)
This even sound very elitistic, the windows users would just use the great cd that has been compiled by the real people who know things, and just keep windows for playing their games, or to run the great music softwares they bought because on linux there are no real solution that is handling mainstream music composition without knowledge about computers.
Sorry to put those misplaced arguments, but sometimes I'm wondering about solutions instead of closing doors.
The windows version is probably the most downloaded because users aren't satisfied, and are waiting for the big changes.
----- "Bernardo Barros" bernardobarros2@gmail.com a écrit :
BTW SuperCollider did not released the 3.4 verion for Windows. Widows is just crappy for audio. That means more bugs and more issues to fix. more work for developers etc. The situation is that anyone can put a puredyne live-cd and work with pd/supercollider/whatever on any computer on earth.
2010/9/17 András Murányi muranyia@gmail.com:
Maybe i'm short of rationality, (and i may sound weird, please don't misunderstand) but for me it's like a race issue... we shall not discriminate windows users, because most of them were "born into"
windows.
It's not like you buy your first computer and the vendor asks you
"which OS
please?", and you have a 360 degree view of them you if you are cool
you
choose linux, and if you are a jerk you choose windows. Be more
tolerant,
and of course be happy that you are already "on the right side", but
try to
help those "on the dark side" rather than abandoning them. Just 2 cents.
Andras
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Bernardo Barros
wrote:
Just stop losing energy with Windows. Better concentrate our
limited
resources.... Linux is better for audio anyway, and it's so easy to
use/install/try
these days.
2010/9/16 ydegoyon@gmail.com ydegoyon@gmail.com:
ola,
> The Windows package is still the most downloaded.
so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more
customers? )
do you expect any of these to be great creators???
we'll see hey
sevy
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