--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter To: "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" hans@eds.org, pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 5:46 PM On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
A false dichotomy is made between abstractions and
externals.
Such a false dichotomy is also used on the front page of http://puredata.info/ :
« It is easy to extend Pd by writing object classes ("externals") or patches ("abstractions"). »
As well as in svn, where, for example, list-abs is in the abstractions folder, but there are plenty of libraries in "externals" that are made up only of abstractions.
I say that even though at the implementation level, abstractions aren't classes, for the user, it works like a class.
Also there are many externals that don't include
abstractions but are nonetheless compatible with Pd vanilla.
What part of the text are you referring to, in particular ?
The last sentence states that list-abs "doesn't require any externals so that it is compatible with vanilla Pd as well".
BTW, http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/Abstractions talks about "external patches", but given how "external" is being overwhelmingly used with a totally different meaning in Pd. (are newbies supposed to have to guess ?)
"word or symbol" creates a false dichotomy.
what about the occurrence of "selector-word" in the Messages page ?
Yep, that, too.
Also: it isn't made clear what is special about list
messages as opposed to, say, blueberry messages, which I define as starting with the word blueberry followed by zero or more atoms*.
mmm, blueberries. :)
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