Hi friends, Suddenly i can't open a whole set of patches that ive been working on. The problem is with a series of versions of the same patch (main1,main2,...main26), i can open other stuff without a problem. Ive tried -noloadbang -noaudio -nomidi, and selectively loading externals or not loading any at all. I have tried on other pd version i have installed, both on 2 different w$ installations on the same machine. The funny thing is i dont remeber doing anything that could cause this after the last time i could open them. ¿Any ideas how to debug this? g