I was able to compile pd-extended on my machine, and it behaves just the same as the stable release in the repo.
The puredata package from the official repos does accept a -font-face flag, but the -font-size does not seem to change (I tried from 10 to 1000 as args).
So I'll either compare the config between the liveDVD and my machine to figure out what is different that messes with PD extended, or I'll wait for the gui rewrite pd extended and stick with vanilla. Until this reinstallation I was using 0.39 for all my work still! No harm is sticking with vanilla 42-5.
.b.
On 10-12-10 12:05 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Ok, so after booting a ubuntu liveDVD (on a usb key) I found three interesting things:
Fonts look fine in pd-extended!! (no nvidia driver used)
the PD console prints some stuff that pdextended on my installation
does not: (no such messages on my installation)
Pd Version: 0.42.5-extended Tcl Version: 8.5.8
- The tk scaling value is ~1.3333 on liveDVD (not the ~1.25 on my
installation) Ok, my nvidia card says my dpi (provided by EDID) is 90x96. So the width tk scaling should be 1.25 and the height 1.33, so what does tk scaling mean when pixels are nonsquare?
For fun I manually changed the display DPI to crazy numbers (150x150), the tk scaling report changes, but the appearance of the fonts in PD do not change, but they do everywhere else.
I'll try compiling pd-extended from source next.
.b.
On 10-12-10 10:30 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans & Andras,
Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also. It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed, vanilla must be using 8.5.
To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.
Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.
.b.
On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5". That's what Pd uses. wish could be pointing to wish8.4
.hc
On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hi Hans,
Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in the path.
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
.b.
On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name. Font names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
.hc
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Thanks Hans,
I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled pd-extended.
No change in font size.
I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still no change.
I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
What else can I try?
An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the font size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit! Much has changed. :)
Thanks, B.
On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Start here for debugging it: > http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-... > > > > .hc > > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote: >> Hi Hans and all, >> >> After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back. >> >> I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the >> corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly >> build. >> >> Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It >> looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since >> nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi >> setting >> in xfce font settings appears to make no difference. >> >> Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've >> attached a screenshot. >> >> Thanks, >> B. Bogart >> >> On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote: >>> >>>> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry): >>>> >>>> - path and other menus are now in normal size again. >>>> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size >>> >>> Should be fixed. >>> >>>> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label >>>> will >>>> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that >>>> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated) >>> >>> Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I >>> don't >>> really understand it from this description. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>>> >>>> João >>>> >>>>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed >>>>> since 0.42.5-rc1: >>>>> >>>>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu >>>>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and >>>>> pidip (Carbon) >>>>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows >>>>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again >>>>> >>>>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, >>>>> here >>>>> are some highlights: >>>>> >>>>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs >>>>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux >>>>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) >>>>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries >>>>> >>>>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: >>>>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Downloading >>>>> ----------- >>>>> >>>>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: >>>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>>>> >>>>> You can get the source and build it yourself here: >>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BUGS >>>>> -------- >>>>> >>>>> Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug >>>>> tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug >>>>> report >>>>> on the same issue, please add your information there: >>>>> >>>>> http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Friedenstr. 58 >>>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) >>>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 >>>> Studio +49 30 69509190 >>>> jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, >>> one >>> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better >>> language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >
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