carmen wrote:
maybe you'me missed my message on LAU list. I was asking for help to install your ix widgets. They seem a lot of fun from the screenshots. tcl error: in ::toxy::longvishook: invalid command name "::ix::mat_new" miXed consistency check failed: widgettype_doload
yeah i saw that. sorry, unable to help at the moment as ive been using a 64bit computer/OS for the past 3 years, and devel pd freezes on launch, desire crashes 3 seconds after launch, and msp fails to connect to any audio interfaces. additionally, [widget] needs to be fixed for the latest PD version, many 0.1 version bumps on the Tk libs broke widgets, and platform differences in when drawing structs are updated meant id have to specialcase a lot of platform and error conditions (eg divide by zero in [winfo height]) due to toxy's roughshod 'rewrite tk into pd-escaped code and shuttle it over the GUI socket and hope it all gets executed' tactics.
'Mat' is an exception anyways, since it began as a piano roll (if you remember pd_sucks.PNG) and was extended to the point of being able to host my other widgets, slightly rewritten from their toxy versions. this is the one widget where any cool features it had (floating inspector, Illustrator/Inkscape style object alignment(quantization/distribution), and tagged/labeled selection would be better ported to the main desire canvas class (and make some kind of 'Note' object with a flexible representation, veering towards reimplmeneting 'datastructures'). i'll mention it when i get around to adding options to DD's build files to support GCC's -m32 mode, and port the widgets..
Anyway as far as I've understood you use osc to talk between your widgets and pd. Is it right?
they use PD protocol. just flat lists.. if you want to use OSC to control things, theres another similar project called Khagan: http://khagan.berlios.de/
I'm asking this because I'm making similar widgets within the squeak smalltalk environment (www.squeak.org) using OSC as protocol. So, if this is the case, it would be more pratical for me to keep working with these tools I know a bit more.
this sounds cool. keep us posted on progress..
Ok. I see. Thank you for the explanations.
I knew about khagan. I'll give it a try.
I think it would be interesting to have some sort of OSC sequencer. I would love to compose with the same control over each note (or any other kind of event) you can have with csound scores but that can be edited visually.
I love to use pure data to build instruments and effect, but at some point I want to expose all the parameters of my patch to OSC and use such kind of tool (some kind of OSC sequencer) to concentrate on composition/performance, mostly drawing and editing envelopes and maybe also triggering them in a generative fashion.
c.
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