On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 16:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Le 2012-02-18 à 21:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
An attitude of trying to make things look bad for no obvious reason.
What Hans has written at the beginning of the announcement is bad and this is why I « make it look bad ».
I think that all recent efforts done in Pd and Pd-extended are great
The great efforts that Hans puts in the Pd-extended project should not give him the right to say whatever he wants.
Of course, not. Still, I - according to my personal judgment (I cannot speak for you) - didn't read Hans as he would be claiming unjustified credit.
I'm not even talking about that topic.
If people feel pretermitted, I think it's up to them to speak up.
You mean that it's alright to give the impression that a lot more has changed in Pd than what really has changed ?
No, I agree that giving a misleading impression should be avoided, but the point (again) is that I still believe I didn't get any wrong impression (probably I'm wrong here?). I must also say I haven't looked at the code itself, but followed the commit history of Pd-0.43 and the talks in the mailing lists pd-list and pd-dev. And my impression was that some of what could be changed regarding pd<->pd-gui communication was achieved, but it's still an ongoing process.
Do you think that it helps making Pd be taken seriously ?
Interesting question. I haven't thought about what could help make Pd be taken less or more seriously. Thinking about it, I feel that people often tend to take something seriously for odd reasons, like if has a 'nice' interface, if it costs much, if prominent person XY has a positive opinion about it, etc.
Roman