I am betting that it is not "someone" but many people who will do
this. That's why there is a GUI plugin interface in 0.43, so we can
have many people experimenting and developing ideas for how a dataflow
GUI should be.
http://puredata.info/docs/PdGuiPluginsAPI
.hc
On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
If someone contribute to a really cool, pretty and performance-friendly GUI side for PureData, Max would become pretty much irrelevant now.
2010/9/14 Lorenzo lsutton@libero.it:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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Oh, and instead of [transport] just use a metro with a
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It's also that it's more marketable if they add rather trivial features just so that they can say «Max 5 has more features about time scale !». It's easier than to explain to them that Max doesn't need those features.
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Also, it's more marketable if Max has an object like [textedit]
where the user can type multi-line text into a box. It's easier than picking through the Toxy graveyard and learning that you can't send messages to the widget unless its containing canvas is visible,
then trying to work with [entry] and having the data you typed in the box disappear because you minimized the window. Then realizing
that the whole reason you're looking for an object that corresponds to
[textedit] is because you can't resize message boxes (and they don't appear
on a gop canvas).-Jonathan
You could try tkwidgets/text. I really should finish that
library. Its close to done, and it'll probably a suite of nice GUI objects,
including something like textedit..hc
Thinking about guish issues, which always come up in the max vs pd discussions... I lately thought quite a bit about this from reading
the discussions on here, experimenting with some 'gui' made in GEM etc.
and seeing stuff made with max5...Actually... I'm more and more thinking that maybe the best approach
for "full-fledged" guis for Pd patches is an 'external' approach a la
GrIPD... maybe using some standard widget set and maybe facilitating the netsend/receive process. Also exploring newer GUIs, like web-based
(AJAX and similar) might be interesting for certain applications?GrIPD is already a remarkable tool, but imho we should probably
explore further a paradigm of Pd as an 'audio engine'? (maybe something
remarkable is already out there and I may not be aware of it :)All these are still open questions: personally I love the pd 'look
and feel', but I do see an issue for certain applications and domains
and when comparing to, say, max etc.Discussion welcome :)
Bests, Lorenzo
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