On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 18:48, Umiachi wrote:
What do you use PD for?
Some of the issues you describe seem to be handled better in linux. While I don't use pd that way, I assume that it wouldn't be too difficult to use it with some sequencer (muse, rosegarden) and route audio in and out (via jack) and control it with MIDI (or generate/mangle MIDI and send it back to the sequencer). Other platforms may not offer such flexibility.
Personally, I started using pd because I could experiment with various approaches to 1) composition (algorithmic/automatic), 2) interactive improvisation, 3) prototyping (and using) various sound creation and sound manipulation tools which are either: a) unavailable elsewhere, b) if available, not flexible enough or c) too expensive.
There are, however, situations when I drop pd because another tool gives me exactly what I need. Sometimes, if I'm able to communicate with that tool via pd, it's plus.
Keep in mind that my use of pd is performance (and improvisation) oriented (mainly as a fairly versatile DSP box).
Sure, I can mangle samples in it (to be imported into another editor for touch up work, then exported to my samplers), but that's about all it's useful for it me at the moment.
This is a very fine use, providing that what you do cannot be achieved by some ready-made tools (unless you like to do it yourself, anyways).
I can make midi synths, but since they can't be rewired (or hosted) in my DAWs, I loose out on a lot of functionality.
pd can be used as an additional soft-synth. After you have built your synth you can assign it various MIDI controllers which can be driven by your sequencer (I think that inter-application MIDI communication is possible on all major platforms pd runs on). If you cannot route your pd audio back to your DAW then you could, at least, be able to record the mix to DAT or some other external medium.
I can make generative music, but I'm more interested in manually sequencing abstraction.
I think that pd's strength lies in dynamism related to interactive/algorithmic/generative/whatever type of use. While you could implement your own sequencer in pd, it's a bit pointless if you use already quite powerful sequencers. But, if you're into simplicity you may wish to build a sequencer that operates exactly in the way you want and get rid of the overhead that cubase or logic generates. Up to you.
So, maybe I can learn by proxy: What do you use this for? Anybody care to share (audio links would be nice as well)?
on www.creazone.32k.org follow these:
- UniSexe (new pieces coming very soon, maybe over the weekend...)
- ./MiS (only the first piece on the page is not pd but Max/MSP, it'd
be possible to port, the rest is guitar+pd)
HTH