So, the issue now seems to be that my own externals, and those of a friend who compiled his on macos in 2018 (and which I was using earlier this week in Pd 0.50-2), would neither load nor initiate an OS security prompt of any sort in Pd 0.51-0test2.
I guess this is because your externals / that of your friend had already been blacklisted by the GateKeeper by trying to open them with an unnotarized Pd (and not setting the necessary security exceptions)
For some still-inexplicable reason, my externals started working again in both of these versions of Pd after building and loading a newly-created external. macOS Catalina 10.15.4.
Newly built externals are not blacklisted.
Christof
On 30.05.2020 22:19, Kevin Haywood wrote:
Sorry, I didn’t see this message!
No, I used Deken to install zexy, then opened a zexy help file. I assumed that that would work, and apparently it doesn’t, but that seems to be a specification issue colliding with an unfounded assumption. Creating [declare -lib zexy] before trying to load a zexy external does indeed cause zexy to work, so thank you. I apologize that I didn’t know this requirement, but I almost never use externals, except occasionally my own.
So, the issue now seems to be that my own externals, and those of a friend who compiled his on macos in 2018 (and which I was using earlier this week in Pd 0.50-2), would neither load nor initiate an OS security prompt of any sort in Pd 0.51-0test2. For some still-inexplicable reason, my externals started working again in both of these versions of Pd after building and loading a newly-created external. macOS Catalina 10.15.4.
Thanks again for your help!
On May 30, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Christof Ressi info@christofressi.com wrote:
Zexy’s compiled externals such as demux and demultiplex can’t be created in either 0.51-0test2 or in 0.50-2
Did you actually load zexy, i.e. [declare -lib zexy]?
Christof
On 30.05.2020 20:08, Kevin Haywood via Pd-list wrote:
Ok, current testing results:
Created and built a new external in Xcode. The external loads and runs as expected in 0.51-0test2, without throwing any kind of warning.
The externals that weren’t loading yesterday with 0.51-0test2 suddenly work again, in both that version and in 0.50-2. These are externals that I had created myself, as well as some that a friend had created and compiled.
However, I next used Deken to install zexyv2.3.0(Linux-amd64-32)(Windows-amd64-32)(Windows-i386-32).dek, and Zexy’s compiled externals such as demux and demultiplex can’t be created in either 0.51-0test2 or in 0.50-2. No mention appears in System Preferences > Security and Privacy.
However, I next used Deken to install cyclonev0.4(Darwin-i386-32).dek, and compiled externals from there run as expected.
Not sure what’s happening : ) Kevin
On May 30, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
This is deeply worrisome... it seems like your OS has somehow decided to ban the externs themselves (irrespective of Pd).
Is it feasible for you to either make or download an extern you haven't used before and see if an older Pd can at least load that one? And anyway, are these your own externs (that you compiled) that don't load, or downloaded externs, or both?
thanks M
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:24:36AM -0700, Kevin Haywood wrote:
For me, on almost-latest macOS (10.15.4, although 10.15.5 just came out), test2 will not load externals at all.
I get the "??? couldn???t create??? message in the Pd Window, but whereas previously I could quit Pd, go to System Preferences > Security & Privacy and there would be a little message telling me the last piece of software that was blocked (and allowing me to unblock it), that message no longer appears.
To make matters worse, when I go back to 0.50-2, none of my externals will load there, either, now that I???ve run test2.
Yikes! Kevin
On May 29, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce pd-announce@lists.iem.at wrote:
To Pd-announce:
Pd 0.51-0test2 is up. It should fix the code signing problem in test1 ofr Macintoshes. No difference from test1 on other OSes.
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
cheers Miller
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