On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Frank Barknecht wrote:
James Aldridge hat gesagt: // James Aldridge wrote:
More readable? Hah. That has to be some kind of crazy joke, good one Olaf. ;)
Whatever Olaf wrote (I didn't get his mail): Not having segmented patchcord forces the user to be clearer and more orgaized in the layout of the *objects* inside - which is most of what Max/Pd is about.
If the design of Pd is so concerned about the layout of the objects inside it should have an option to set the max-width of an objectbox, messagebox, or comment.
Plus, I already have explained several times why straight patch cords don't cut it. I have hundreds of patchcords striking through objects because I can't stand having to use hundreds of [s $0-hello] to circumvent the problem.
That said, i sort of got used to have a crummy badlooking patch editor, mostly because I had no other choice. I figured out that the other advantages of Pd (over jMax) outweighted the inconvenients.
I'd rather not hear the "it's for your own good" argument unless it has solid backing, and I don't recall reading any such thing.
Anyway, having these as an option would be nice, but apart from imPd they haven't arrived yet.
They are not in IMPD. I only made something that renders them as randomly-placed (within certain bounds) and made splines out of it. That was 20 lines of code. It would have been a damn lot more to also get the mouse working with them, add a patchcord menu, make them load and save, send a patch to miller to make "regular pd" at least keep the segmentation info while editing, etc...
The screenshots of IMPD are in
http://artengine.ca/matju/impd/gallery/
I dropped the project around last may because I had real work =) but I never quite resumed it. impd_0_37 is a good demo of what it will be when it grows up, but impd_0_37 as it is will stay that way forever, while a modified copy of it will enter devel_0_38's body. I can't tell the exact date when that will happen, because my fortune teller woke up at that point. ;-)
Mathieu Bouchard -=- Montréal QC Canada -=- http://artengine.ca/matju