Aha, now my missing emails come in from the void to confuse and obfuscate the conversation.
Like I said, the elitist dig was just to stir up the dirt. Im familiar enough with mailing lists and whatnot to know how to get a response. Ok sorry, it was a bit devious. *rubs hands together*. 'Forget max' spurred me to incite some fires. and that comment was directed at miso, not everyone.
As far as ubumenu functionality is concerned, you can do a few things, namely: insert a list to the ubumenu. Upon selection it outputs the index, the string of the item chosen, and a dumpout, in 3 outputs. You can enable/disable items in the list (they become faded + non-selectable etc). It has various niceties like other modes of operation, like acting as a button/toggle, you can set the item/index with a message, force it to dump its current selection, etc etc.
But the real nice thing about it (esp when max was in OS 9) is that it was non-interrupting. it drew a window that seemed like a menu. this would not cause stutters in jitter/msp playback. But that was a multitasking deficiency of OS 8/9.
Anyway not to drag this on.... =).
A nice common relatively full gui featureset im sure, would benefit everyone.
And I didnt mean to say PD is 'half done' in a manner to disrespect it. Im a glass is half full kind of guy. it means to me "we havent even seen half of what it can do (and ive seen about, what, 1/37th?)" Ok enough rambling.
Thanks everyone for the input.
On Nov 3, 2003, at 2:16 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, doktorp hat gesagt: // doktorp wrote:
Ill take note not to mention max/msp since it seems to be such a heated topic. But realize it is where a lot of users are/will be coming from.
Actually the heat came up when you wrote this: "oh wait, sorry,I guess we all are supposed to be elitist" There's no problem with mentioning Max here. A lot of Pd users used Max before and are trying to get comfortable with Pd from a Max perspective. They get helped generally.
Personally I didn't miss that ubumenu-thingie yet, but I had never used Max when I learned Pd so I'm quite confortable with remembering object names or looking into /usr/lib/pd/extra/ (another argument against external libraries, btw.)
A question, though: Does this ubumenu also include abstactions?
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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