hey guys,
thanks for the help.. greatly appreciated ! :)
timmy xx
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Today's Topics:
- file system for pd (Timmy)
- OT: Processing Book (Mike McGonagle)
- Re: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Frank Barknecht)
- Re: file system for pd (Frank Barknecht)
- Re: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Charles Henry)
- Re: file system for pd (marius schebella)
- Re: pdpedia Images (Georg Werner)
- Re: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Charles Henry)
- Fwd: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? (Mike McGonagle)
Subject: [PD] file system for pd From: Timmy tim@dirtyhandbag.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:19:44 +0000 To: pd-list@iem.at
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hi everyone,
is there a similar object to the coll object in pd ? im trying to save preferences for a patch.. is this possible ??
also does anyone know of a way to have a specified folder preselected in the "openpanel" object.. at the moment it always opens in the same dir as the saved pd file.. id like to create browsable folders/filesystem for selecting files whilst performing..
any ideas would be great.. ta!
tim
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Subject: [PD] OT: Processing Book From: "Mike McGonagle" mjmogo@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:52:51 -0600 To: "pd list" pd-list@iem.at
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http://www.processing.org/learning/books/
While this is not specific to Pure Data, it does contain a section on working with Wiring and Arduino devices.
Just thought others might find this interesting...
Mike
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Subject: Re: [PD] What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? From: Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:40:11 +0100 To: pd-list@iem.at
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Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:17:33 +0900 "hard off" hard.off@gmail.com wrote:
but yeah. i agree.
[bang( | [until]
is a great name for a death metal band!
LOL! Yeah.
Yeah, really cool. Lets make that the t-shirt for pd~conv 2009!
Anyway, in accordance with what you said bang-until is the one that is in the 0.1% of "worth thinking about safety" issues, precisely because it does not cause a stack overflow.
I think, that now, that the "negative numbers" bug of [until] where negative numbers acted like a bang, is fixed in the next Pd, maybe we should tell beginners that they can send a number into Pd when they are unsure if their patch is stopping [until] correctly. Maybe we should even *preach* to send numbers instead of a bang into [until] in general? If you use a large enough number, it's "almost the same" as a bang except that it will stop by itself at some point.
Ciao
Subject: Re: [PD] file system for pd From: Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:46:24 +0100 To: pd-list@iem.at
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Hallo, Timmy hat gesagt: // Timmy wrote:
is there a similar object to the coll object in pd ?
[textfile] is the most similar object to coll in Pd. If you also include externals, then you could also look into pool, msgfile, pbank or of course the Lua loader.
im trying to save preferences for a patch.. is this possible ??
[sssad] can be used for this, where to save to is yur choice - textfile, msg, pool, coll, all work. Memento is another system for state saving, which requires [pool] and [OSCroute].
also does anyone know of a way to have a specified folder preselected in the "openpanel" object.. at the moment it always opens in the same dir as the saved pd file.. id like to create browsable folders/filesystem for selecting files whilst performing..
Send a "symbol /my/path" to [openpanel] instead of a bang. You may be interested in reading the help-file for openpanel. ;)
Ciao
Subject: Re: [PD] What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? From: "Charles Henry" czhenry@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:57:12 -0600 To: pd-list@iem.at
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On 12/19/07, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
I think, that now, that the "negative numbers" bug of [until] where negative numbers acted like a bang, is fixed in the next Pd, maybe we should tell beginners that they can send a number into Pd when they are unsure if their patch is stopping [until] correctly. Maybe we should even *preach* to send numbers instead of a bang into [until] in general? If you use a large enough number, it's "almost the same" as a bang except that it will stop by itself at some point.
I seem to be tuning in a little late, in this discussion, but if it's a bad problem, couldn't you change the method of until to use only floats?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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Subject: Re: [PD] file system for pd From: marius schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:06 -0500 To: Timmy tim@dirtyhandbag.com
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there is a coll object in the cyclone external library. marius.
Timmy wrote:
hi everyone,
is there a similar object to the coll object in pd ? im trying to save preferences for a patch.. is this possible ??
also does anyone know of a way to have a specified folder preselected in the "openpanel" object.. at the moment it always opens in the same dir as the saved pd file.. id like to create browsable folders/filesystem for selecting files whilst performing..
any ideas would be great.. ta!
tim
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Subject: Re: [PD] pdpedia Images From: Georg Werner georg@fricklr.de Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:18:34 +0100 To: marius schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com
To: marius schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at
hi, i uploaded it to the mediapool: https://wiki.puredata.info/mediapool/Special:Imagelist the name is "makenote.png", no tilde etc. (for tilde one could use - instead [inside of filenames]?) with "makefile.png / en" i meant: https://wiki.puredata.info/en/makenote georg
marius schebella:
hi, I'm not seeing your file. did you upload it to the mediapool? I know that there are problems with special characters. for example tilde (~) is afaik not working. (so that would be great to fix, seems to be a major wiki issue). but besides that image upload should work. the image upload for the individual languages is turned off, to make all images accessible in all languages. maybe that is what you mean with makefile.png / en? marius.
Georg Werner wrote:
hi,
i'm wondering why the image-upload in pdpedia isn't working. if the description consists of the comments in the help-patches anyway, screenshots would be much more readable. I uploaded one file, but couldn't get it to be displayed (makefile.png / en). Is there anything i could help with (perl/php etc.)?
georg
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Subject: Re: [PD] What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? From: "Charles Henry" czhenry@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:23:17 -0600 To: pd-list@iem.at
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On 12/19/07, Charles Henry czhenry@gmail.com wrote:
I seem to be tuning in a little late, in this discussion, but if it's a bad problem, couldn't you change the method of until to use only floats?
oh, wait, now I get it. You should send a message back to until to stop the loop at some point--that's why it loops until some condition is met.
Subject: [PD] Fwd: What exactly is a "stack overflow" ? From: "Mike McGonagle" mjmogo@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:26:13 -0600 To: pd-list@iem.at
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On Dec 19, 2007 2:57 PM, Charles Henry < czhenry@gmail.com mailto:czhenry@gmail.com> wrote:
I seem to be tuning in a little late, in this discussion, but if it's a bad problem, couldn't you change the method of until to use only floats?But this is the whole point of discussions like this. It is NOT to fix a FEATURE of PD, but to give warnings as what NOT to do to shoot yourself in the foot.
If you know NOT to connect up a [bang( -> [until] without some sort of termination means, then you won't do it... Or if you really need to experience it first hand, then by all means do it. You probably will never do it again...
Besides, this object is so old that to make a change like this would probably break a large portion of PD patches that use [until].
Mike
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