I've been using Redhat and Fedora for several years on Thinkpads. They just handed me a new R51 at work to replace my old R31. Of course the first thing I have to do whenever they give me a new laptop is to toss Windows and install Linux. This time, I had limited time as I got the new laptop yesterday and had to return the old one today. So instead of upgrading to Fedora 3 (downloading all the iso's) I decided to put Fedora 2 on because I had it laying around. Fedora and Redhat have always been problematic on these Thinkpads. There's always something that doesn't work or doesn't work as it should. I had my old one running rather well, was using CCRMA's repository, all the necessary software worked but 802.11 was problematic and I couldn't use any power management features because then the mouse pointer would start jumping all over the screen, opening a multitude of windows and just going berserk. So this time, I hoped that IBM had done something different so that a basic Fedora 2 install would just work. No such luck. But I still didn't have time to download all the FC3 iso's so I decided to try Ubuntu (just one iso to download) and it's great. Everything works (well, except I had to download and install some specific stuff for 802.11) and in their apt repository they have PD, jack, externals and all sorts of stuff. True, Ubuntu doesn't come with KDE but you can install it from their apt 'Universe' repository.
Pretty cool distro. I even ordered 15 cd's from them to distribute at work (they pay for shipping and everything, you don't pay a dime). I've been hammering away at it all day and the only problem I've had so far was with Rosegarden4. I think it just needs some extra KDE stuff.
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ix@replic.net wrote:
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 12:43:52PM -0800, Ian Smith-Heisters wrote:
What about Ubuntu? There are some fantastic Pd packages for debian, and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu takes that and adds an installation and ease-of-use to rival Suse, Redhat, and anyone else. Plus, apt is a better package manager than most out there, except emerge and arch-linux's, imho.
afaik - Ubuntu takes a "snapshot" of debian-unstable every 6 months. only a few selected apps are updated more often (say Firefox, that sort of thing). whatever audio packages guenter and agnula ppl etc maintain for debian are praobably not on that short-list. plus, it does not have KDE..
chances are, youre going to end up compiling from source anyways, to get a patch or newer version of something that youre interested in. gentoo is the easiest by far for this, since usually you dont even have to get a tarball as an ebuild proably already exists unless the release is 3 seconds old.. for slower machines, debian unstable does not require compiling thigns you dont WANT to compile, but still has lots of niceties like 'make-kpkg' to make things easier...i found it impossible to fix basic things on suse that werent configured right by the automated/GUI tools it included..
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