Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" ico@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:25 PM
On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at
wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots
of new editing
features To: "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" ico@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:38 PM
On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes
wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner
wrote:
[...]
The problem with forks is if improvements
don't
migrate
upstream.
I think it's both a problem-with and a
cause-of.
Yup, that makes sense.
Then we don't benefit from sharing the fixes. Making things migrate
upstream takes
time in
itself.
How does one figure out who has the
responsibility to
make sure
things migrate upstream (for example:
[initbang] and
[closebang])?
Mostly by someone deciding its important enough
that they
want to work on it themself, and then lots of testing and communication.
Ok. So in patch id#2838176, what is Guenter's
idea for a clean
implementation of tooltips that you were referring
to? I didn't
find anything on the user or dev list.
Hmm, I can't remember what Günter's proposal was, but I do have a vague idea of how to do it cleanly. I think it should be similar to the way its done in Max/MSP. Basically there is a standard function, something like nlet_info(), which returns the tooltip info.
Where would one define the standard function?
Pd would then check whether an object had that function when it loaded the binary, and if so register it in the tooltips.
This brings up an issue I've been wondering about since learning a little more about the canvas editor: why does the pd gui send 'motion' messages to pd? Why not, for example, just have a tag for an inlet rectangle and bind <Enter> and <Leave> to it? Then you'd only be sending messages from the gui for the events you care about, instead of tons of "motion" messages that don't trigger anything.
I may be way off the mark here, if I recall correctly I think that info is used for dragging stuff and similar actions.
-Jonathan
.hc
Try getting a patch into the Linux
kernel,
that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)
Yes, I would hope that making changes to the
core of
the largest
free software project in the history of
computing is a
wee bit more
difficult than making changes to Pd.
Actually, there are much bigger projects than
Linux, things
like Debian are quite a bit larger in scale.
I read a white paper on total development cost of a
linux distro and
just remembered "linux". I think the distro in
the paper was Fedora
9, which was estimated to be almost an order of
magnitude more
expensive than the Linux kernel.
-Jonathan
.hc
-Jonathan
.hc
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