On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Spammers don't have fun, they're working.
right.
Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
However, the only other wikis I recall visiting (and a LOT) are the C2.com wiki and the Wikipedia, which are the two biggest wikis I know, were never affected by any such problem, as far as I remember.
Because Wikipedia has a login, permissions and reviewers.
Yeah. I wonder how to deal with the fact that having logins with manually-approved registrations is cumbersome and is a deterrent to external contribution. (similar to why web sites don't finance themselves by charging 5 cents to visitors: micropayments may be a nice concept, but so many people don't even want to bother with it.)
I say "manually-approved registrations" because automated registrations can be circumvented too easily: just make a bogus account, then login, then cause the same trouble, in very little time. in a manual system, the result/effort ratio, the delay, and the feeling of being supervised, are factors that tend to repel spammers, as they switch to simpler targets, that is, other automated systems.
It explains how to disable Google page ranking.
Eeek. In my breakneck browsing, I forgot to even skim the page.
It probably helps,
I think it helps, but long-term only, and large-scale only: that is, if enough wiki people get into such a scheme, the wikis will become less attractive to spammers, and then just wait till the spammers realize it's not worth it.
but it doesn't solve security issues.
right.
- Implementing login systems, Captchas, etc. means losing the fight and giving up.
- Wikis are the essence of what the internet should be for me: free, open, accessible by anybody. "
I prefer a more balanced approach. Here's a excerpt from http://zwiki.org/GeneralDiscussion200307 " One of Wiki's key strengths is radical openness. One of Zope's is fine-grained, manageable security. "
I don't know enough Zope and afaik you're the Zope expert around here. I think this could be a topic at pdmtl#8 if only you were available enough to join us in such meetings just like you were last winter.
Mathieu Bouchard -=- Montréal QC Canada -=- http://artengine.ca/matju