I experienced exactly the same thing as Luiz. When I did a fresh load of the extended version that you suggested (no entry in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Pd which was properly removed by the uninstall) it seemed to work decently. For example freeverb~ loaded when the freeverb help patch was opened in the browser. After saving the Path... dialog (without the freeverb path - and without changing any paths) the freeverb~ object no longer loaded when opening the help patch. Now the question is what pd-extended is doing with the search paths and how is it used in the Browser? For example, are all the browser help patches supposed to work "out-of-the-box"? The pd settings including the search paths seems to survive uninstall/install procedures which is kind of neat from a user point of view but it makes this kind of debugging difficult.
From the pd documentation it make sense that the freeverb~ is not found since it is not part of the search path. However, it would be extremely helpful if the "use standard extension" flag also searched the subdirectories in extra! I suspect that this is an old issue but it is even more important with the large number of directories in the pd-extended version. /Anders
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The 10 items thing is a well known bug... An import help patch exists, but it doesn't seem to get installed properly. That's a bug, it should be reported:
http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker/
.hc
On Oct 11, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Luiz Naveda wrote:
Hi Hans,
The problem (for me) is not exactly loading extended libraries at start up. The problem starts when you try to modify the path slots in the file menu. After this I don't know what happens...Some libraries are missing...
And I start to ask myself: Why ten? If I overwrite one slot I miss the overwrote library? I've checked the registry and the adresses were there...
To complete, after rewrite the registry...nothing loads...and I have to reinstall PD, again
I already checked the docs and the information is cloudy...for me. This affect directly the modularity and development of libraries.Is it possible to create a super-searching path (with subdirectory search)? So, if you want load something, just throw the folder there.
[import] doesnt work, and it has no docs, until now I am using Pd version 0.39.3-extended-rc5
Best
Luiz
On 10/10/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
I haven't been able to reproduce this problem. All of the libraries should be loaded by default. This is how it worked for me on the two WinXP machines I've tested on.
Perhaps there is something stuck in the registry that is causing problems. Try deleting the Pd registry settings. Delete this whole folder:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Pd
Careful! You can really screw things up if you delete the wrong thing. Then try reinstalling using this version:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-10/Pd-0.39.3-extended-wind...
If that doesn't work, please file a bug report with as much information as possible.
.hc
On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Anders Friberg wrote: I had for a long time similar struggles related to missing objects in pd-extended. To use the colon as separator does not seem to work on Windows - which makes sense since paths usually contain a colon as well. And if I want to use all libs in extended I have to list 51 paths since that is the number of folders in /pd/extra/! And it is very confusing (especially for a beginner) when the help patches in the browser do not work from the beginning. It would be wonderful to have a "working out-of-the-box" solution to this problem. (and yes - I clicked the reg file) pd-extended is a great effort and if this issue can be solved it would improve the usability enormously. /Anders
Max Neupert wrote: Am 07.10.2007 um 07:12 schrieb Luiz Naveda:
Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot- path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in the 10 slots...
to add more entries you may use the : as a separator as described here:
http://puredata.org/docs/tutorials/TipsAndTricks#add-more-entries-to- the-path-and-library-dialogs
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