hello, I did some print before and after the object [pack 0 0]
For the [notein] with m-audio keyRig 49, inputs and outputs are coherent. But not for the BCF2000 switches and [ctlin] (anyway it was just a testing for the latest).
Finally, the problem seems come from the vst~ that miss some event when releasing (note 0) (but also sometimes when pushing). It is easy to reproduce pushing only 2 keys. I understand that the VST plugin instrument stay in sustain period until receiving again the note 0. I tried with different plugins.
My config is windows 10, puredata 0.43.3 and vst~.dll is from this page : http://grrrr.org/data/dev/ext/windows/pd/ Should I compile the whole with newest source for puredata ? from cygwin or Microsoft Visual C ? regards, *Vincent VANBESIEN* Le 30/08/2016 12:59, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-08-30 12:20, Vincent Vanbesien (DIEHCO) wrote:
Thank you IOhannes for the helpfull answer.
However, it seems ctlin and notein outputs are note syncronised then it happens that the pack object triggered by first argument sends its output with in second argument the previous/older note.
i'm not sure whether i can parse this. [notein] will first output on the right outlet and then on the left outlet, so the [pack]ed message will be correct (as it only outputs the list after the left inlet is filled - which happens after the right inlet got it s data).
i don't know where you get your [ctlin] from (you haven't mentioned it before). but anyhow: in MIDI each event is atomic (so a note-on event cannot be interrupted by a control-in event), but the sequence of arrival is defined by the sender: so if you first send your ctlin message and then your note-on, then the ctrlin even will naturally appear before the note-onl.
in any case: Pd makes it easy to synchronize messages: use hot/cold-inlets and triggers (this is probably the single most important thing to understand about Pd)
fgm,asdr IOhannes
*Vincent VANBESIEN
Le 29/08/2016 10:51, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-08-29 09:45, Vincent Vanbesien (DIEHCO) wrote:
My question concerns the noise~ in input, can I replace it by a midi notein object ?
no. [noise~] produces an audio-signal (a bunch of numbers representing audio samples), wheras [notein] produces a message (a high-level structured event representing arbitrary data).
not all vst-plugins take midi-notes, but [vst~] might have a way to get the available messages you can send to a given plugin (but i don't know as i never use it).
The element named "pd midi" in the patch seems to generate midi and not to receive, is that right ?
no, actually it documents how to send midi events (e.g. notes) to a plugin. the [s $0-vst] forwards all messages it receives to [r $0-vst], which sends them to the [vst~] object.
so to answer your question, use something like
[notein 1] | | [pack 0 0] | [note $1 $2( | [vst~]
this will take the note-in data (key and velocity) and create a new message with selector "note" and the data and send that to [vst~].
fgmasd IOhannes
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list