hi, can someone reproduce the following error? if i have xgroove~ playing and trying to move it with the mouse, it loses its graphical representation and is converted to a textfile, respectively a comment and i cannot save it anymore. that only happens after i started the xgroove~ with a bang. hmmm, anyone an idea what the problem could be? is there a conflict with another external? (gripd, iemlib1, iem_t3_lib, iemlib2, iemgui, zexy, expr, vasp, prepend2, grid, cooled~, chaos, motex, py, maxlib, sickle, hammer, vst~...). i use pd 0.36 and win2k. marius.