On Apr 16, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Apr 15, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Ah, okay. I was just encountering these kinds of overlapping
comments in some other patches by other people as well so I was fearing, that it might an incompatibility with patches written using pd- extended and us old-school Courier folks.There are probably also incompatibilities in the patches. There definitely are size incompatibilities between the new font Pd- extended and other pd versions.
So now there *are* size incompatibilities with Miller's Pd? I'm just asking to be prepared, I don't run the Pd from pd-extended, I prefer a plain MSP-Pd in the latest version.
There are incompatibilities between different versions of Pd (0.38, 0.39, 0.40), and each of those versions different platforms (Windows, GNU/Linux and Mac OS X). This version is the same size to the pixel on each platform. There is, of course, no way that the new sizes could be compatible with all of variations. But I hope you'll agree that this is a better situation.
Of course having Pd look the same on all platforms is a good goal, and Miller also supported this in the past. I'm not against solving this at all. But of course incompatibilities should be kept to a minimum, I hope you'll agree with that. (Besides the OS-issues, no versions of MSP-Pd that I've used, had size-incompatibilities when using the same font.)
I might have been wrong about the version-to-version
incompatibilities. I attached a patch that has the size differences
that I have measured. Please fill in anything that you might have
measured.
One thing that I did forget to mention is that the relationship
between the font sizes between the iemguis and the object boxes is
different on each platform. That is also fixed now, (i.e. 12 points
is now the same size in iemguis/boxes on all platforms) That will of
course, break the layout of a lot of patches.
I'm just a bit worrind: Now that you've released new fonts into the (pd-extended) wild, there's an additional, new variable to consider with regard to compatibility when going further with font enhancements.
The goal is to fix this problem with the least pain possible. That
said, there will undoubtedly be some pain because the current
situation is less than good.
.hc
Ciao
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