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From: m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at; "pd-list@iem.at" pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences"
menu items
I remember that one. seems to be gone now....
files, or make it go away entirely,
might be better (easier?) to use available apple help search? a quick look i see mo way to get rid of it. there is a "Help Indexer tool" ... but seems this would be completely different than the plugin...
I don't know why you can't type anything into that box. In Firefox it brings up results about Safari and stuff, so it looks like a global help search. Looks like the Firefox devs just made some shortcuts to point to menu items in the Apple help (or it generated them automatically with that toolkit but doesn't with Tcl/Tk).
But I think the correct solution for the plug-in is to name it "Pd Help" or "Pd Help Browser" in the menu, then there is no confusion.
-Jonathan
m
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com wrote:
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From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at To: m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com;
"pd-list@iem.at" pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
That other big blue search thing on Mac OS X is the Apple Help search.
It only
searches Apple Help. If anyone can figure out how to either make it
search .pd
files, or make it go away entirely, that would be great to have.
Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences"
menu items under the
main Pd application menu.
-Jonathan
.hc
On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
this looks really great!
hans ... whats up with the other "Search" under
"help".
I cant even
type into it let alone search for anything. are we just getting
rid of
that and replacing with jonathons?
thanks! m
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes
wrote:
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From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
Very nice, a big improvement. Its really looking quite
complete.
Its getting
so good that I finally missed that it doesn't have a
back
button like lots
of browserly things these days.
There's probably a way to do that if someone wants to
investigate.
There's a
"dump" subcommand for the text widget, but you'd
probably
want to cache it
on disk since results can be pretty big for, say, a search for
"float".
Other issues: * long searches on OSX. I'm just doing a regex on every
file as
one big
string (which is faster than foreaching each line). Could be
faster
with an
index but then not even half of all docs have keywords or
metadata.
* users can easily trigger tk error messages because I'm
using
their input
as the regex pattern. Plus, I'm blithely treating the
input as if
it were a well
formed list, and thus I've entered tcl "quoting
hell".
The benefit is that I get
string quoting for free, and I'm quite fine with that vs.
the cost
of an error
with a complex regex pattern. * external libraries that don't have a *-meta.pd patch
won't
get listed in the
external libraries list. (Simple fix, though.) * Pd's chronic lack of user-friendly documentation is even
more
obvious.
One external library's description is something like
"my bag
of tricks"!
Of course many of the libs are just directories for a
particular
developer's
experimentation, but if you see a description that can be
improved let
me know and I'll fix it.
-Jonathan
Its definitely ready to be on the puredata.info/downloads
page, at
the very
least.
One minor thing, it seems that the widget frames and the
background
are slightly
different shades of grey (see attachment):
.hc
On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Search plugin revision: > 1) links to tutorials, manual, and other stuff to
guide
beginners on the
front page > 2) tutorial and libdir filebrowser obsoletes the
<ctrl-B> HelpBrowser
> 3) folder icon allows to open any directory (or
libdir) in
external file
browser > 4) Found an object in the search results you've
never seen
before?
Click the > > info icon to automatically open the readme file from
the
libdir author!
> 5) search results in alphabetical order, with
internal objects
listed first
> 6) see a hint in the statusbar for all links > 7) description/author/license/version automatically
listed for
every libdir
in the libdir format > > -Jonathan >
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