On 6 sept. 10, at 12:12, Thomas Grill wrote:
Hi Norbert,
Yes, I think the latest state of the development of FTM for Pd was
already pretty close (since the last adaptations to Max 5 we probably took
back a little distance). But no, we have currently no plans to develop this further.In fact, I didn't have the impression, that Pd "needs" FTM very
much, since there are other approaches for handing "complex" data structures.Well, the basic built-in possibilities may be there but they haven't been developed into a convenient higher-level system. The VASP modular system that i have been developing for a while is similar to FTM but i don't have the time to maintain it any more and i would rather port the higher-level portions to FTM. I think that Pd needs FTM as much as Max needs it and i would appreciate patcher-level cross-platform compatibility a lot.
Unfortunately, the development of FTM has similar resource issues.
For the moment, we maintain FTM & Co in it's current state and add
very minor features when they don't add anything that makes the
maintenance more difficult.
For what concerns the Gabor and MnM libraries, that have certainly
some interesting functionalities that would be worth having in Pd, I
also could imagine alternative ways to integrated them into Pd (as well as into Max/MSP/Jitter) relying on the data structures that are already
existing in these environments.Certainly, but do you plan to open-source them?
"Plan" is certainly not the right word, but I think, open source
licensing has to be seriously (re-)discussed in this context.
For me, only the underlying FTMlib and the ftm.object and ftm.mess
objects are really required.Can you develop more on this point?
It means that at this point i personally don't need mnm or gbr externals. The basic FTM functionality is sufficient - i would probably make a Python binding and use numpy/scipy for higher level stuff.
Ok.
Currently, we don't have the resources for this, but of course we
would continue to support whoever who would like to continue to work
in this direction as good as I can.
N.
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