The build farm used by Pd-extended worked very well for me. It would be nice to have such a setup integrated with the deken system, so anyone could upload their externals and they would be built and packaged online instead of each developer needing to acquire one of each machine on a 3-year rolling plan.
Martin
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:28 PM Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, VMs could be a good solution. I didn't mean my suggestion to sound "anti-Miller" but more a response when I hear "I cannot code but I want to help with Pd development." :)
I have just 1 laptop and generally don't upgrade until a month or so after a new OS release or at least when there is downtime between projects. This time around, I am skipping macOS 10.15. This means I'm slow in testing new versions, personally.
I could probably buy a Mac mini as well and set up a testing / build system, but I think my point is more toward pushing for a little more institutional support for some of these common issues. I think Joe Deken's university connections are also ready and willing for remote computing / hosting capacity, if I recall correctly. It's a good idea to find ways to spread the technical debt around.
On Jul 6, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
Just to respond to one item here...
I have intimated this before, but perhaps I should now just say it:
Can some institution which relies on using Pd with macOS simply buy Miller and/or the Pd community a new Mac mini to support development efforts on the platform for the next 10 years? This is not too much to ask, especially if you lump it into the "year end" budget category.
I can buy myself a macmini if it came to it. But this gives me the idea that my own department should be running Mac VMs - there are three faculty and several grad students developing software here and having 2 or 3 versions of MacOS running on VMs might make our lives a lot easier. I'm going to start by asking them to set up MacOS 11 :)
M
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