On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 07:02:15PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Apr 6, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:53:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
2: don't use the full Pd-extended but strip it down to your needs (i personally use a barebone Pd and add 3 or so libraries - i still
have an overview about what is loaded...)I'm sometimes thinking about making a pd-condensed fork of pd- extended which includes only externals and abstractions without
nameclashes. ;)Same here! It would be good to have a distribution with a maintainer who is slightly less conservative than Miller about what goes in, but still keep it really tight. Maybe it would also be cool to see a "democratized" version of Pd where externals and libraries must be
first nominated and then voted in by some requisite number of positive
votes. For this to work I think we'd need to have people for each major
GNU/Linux distribution who would do the work of the actual packaging and
submission, separate to the building (My aims are totally selfish - I'd love to be able to apt-get install this).Even more talking with no action (sorry Roman),
Check out my posts about a new ./configure based system for building
externals and custom distros, it would allow us to all work together.http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-03/060833.html
This is all fine as long as it doesn't introduce incompatibilities
and organizes the libraries so that it is compatible with pd-extended
and pd-vanilla with libdirs. Otherwise, this project would just make
the situation worse, there would then be three distros with different
library layouts. We really don't need to return to the bad old days.
I agree it would be a huge waste and duplication of effort to not use all the work you have done in pd-extended. Maybe it would be cool to use the work you have done as a sort of meta distribution from which a custom Pd could be built.
I've been thinking more along these lines with Pd-extended anyway.
What needs to happen is to establish a standard library format, then
people can distribute the librs themselves, and they'll work with any
Pd. libdir is almost there, there I am going to try to finish it
this month, adding support for embedded help files and examples.
Sounds interesting!
Unfortunately I won't be contributing anything significant to Pd until at least August, when my degree and contracts are finished. Thanks again for all your hard work!
Best,
Chris.