Right. Well then how can I add mrpeach to the libdir_loader that runs in the log console at startup?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
I think you meant to CC the list. That's a configuration that I think causes problems down the line.
On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Jerome Covington wrote:
How do I configure PD extended so that mrpeach and all other included libraries and extensions are loaded every time I start it up? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : "define audio development"
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
In Pd-extended 0.41.4, just load it like this: [mrpeach/binfile]. Its included.
.hc
On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:49 PM, Jerome Covington wrote:
Done, I the file named binfile.pd_darwin in the PD app package in the directory path you provided. Should I name the file something else? I'm on an Intel Mac. Still no audio though I can see in the log window that messages are being sent when I use your binDATApayer program.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM, alan.dubdub@googlemail.com wrote:
Im on a mac so everything is hidden inside the app package, which is a folder really. I go to application> right click/ ctrl click on the file and select "show content" then put the binary in contents/resources/extra
If you on linux it should be work the same (being Unix and all) but not sure about windows i am afraid
Does anyone have any suggestions to get binfile.pd working on windows / linux??
marius.
On 13 Oct 2009 02:21, Jerome Covington info@thespacebetweenthewords.org wrote:
I can't seem to find this directory.
~/pd/contents/resources/extra
Should I create that directory structure myself? And if so where does
it go?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:54 PM, alan brooker
alan.dubdub@googlemail.com> wrote:
darn! I think it may have something to do with the binfile.pd which is
an external from Mr.Peaches-for some reason the binary doesn't get
found by PD- I attach a copy for OSX- if you add it to
~/pd/contents/resources/extra (don't put in in the the mrpeach folder
because cant find it). I m not too sure where binaries are for other
os
Basically If the binfile gets working it is a good way to make sound
based on computer data, as opposed to just playing the raw file of a
jpeg -thank for looking :)
On 10/12/09, Jerome Covington info@thespacebetweenthewords.org> wrote:
Hey, I can get the visualization to work, but not the "audioization".
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM, The Space Between the Words info@thespacebetweenthewords.org> wrote:
Thanks, Alan!
I will take a look at your binary conversion patch first chance I
get.
Regards,
Jerome
On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:40 PM, alan brooker
alan.dubdub@googlemail.com>
wrote:
it's better if you can recognise the stock price in the music,
> because if you can't, you could have taken that data from anywhere
> else and it wouldn't matter, so why would you call it stockmarket
> music then?...
>
> I agree fully- the point in which the output is true to it's
source
> and making something sound good is tricky and down to skill-
>
> I worked on a simple patch that created audio from binary data from
> loaded files and I am trying to make good sounds from the patch in
> different ways continually- half the fun though!(a work in
progress!
> contains osx app and pd patch for other os- uses Mr.Peaches
binfile):
>
>
http://databodega.googlecode.com/files/bin_data_application.macosx%20.zip
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/09, Jerome Covington info@thespacebetweenthewords.org>
wrote:
>
>> Excellent, Mathieu.
>> I have a lifetime of experience in music to inform the aesthetics
well.
>>
>> Now I just need more on the "how", and to that extent I am very
>> interested
>> in process within this community.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Jerome Covington
>> . . . . : . . . . :
>> "define audio development"
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Mathieu Bouchard
matju@artengine.ca
>> >wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Jerome Covington wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone interested in sharing their process for turning
real-time,
>>>
>>>> non-audio data feeds, into music? See a great example of one
possible
>>>> direction, here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Coïncidentally, I wrote some thoughts about it in the Pd chatroom
a few
>>> hours before your email, because of a similar topic there:
>>>
>>> «
>>>
>>> musical meaningfulness comes from meaningfulness of the data
>>> beforehand...
>>> basically, if you put garbage in, you get garbage out.
>>>
>>> the exception to that is that a programme is a kind of data in
itself,
>>> so
>>> the programme can be considered a kind of meaningful input... and
if
>>> the
>>> programme imposes itself as the source of the meaning and
successfully
>>> downplays the incoming garbage, it can make the output
meaningful;
>>>
>>> but unless one is very skilled at understanding the information
theory
>>> standpoint of music, using random values gives you just more
>>> meaningless
>>> music like what you are talking about... sort of like picking a
random
>>> book
>>> from the library of babel.
>>>
>>> »
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> now this is what I add to my above thoughts, this time in
relationship
>>> to
>>> the video: without necessarily explicitly thinking about
information
>>> theory,
>>> one can get to interesting results intuitively... one essentially
has
>>> to
>>> focus on getting beautiful results for likely inputs instead of
being
>>> content with whatever fits with the description of a certain art
>>> concept.
>>> Any former stock-market music I had listened to sounded like
crap. What
>>> Patrick did was to make his programme insert so much beauty and
>>> coherence
>>> in
>>> the market's noise, that it made it sound meaningful... actually,
it's
>>> more
>>> like this: the programme can only output music that sounds
reasonably
>>> good
>>> no matter the input, and the meaningless input selects one of the
>>> possible
>>> nice-sounding outputs. Overall, the music is more shaped by
Patrick's
>>> æsthetic decisions than by the stock market, and it's perfect
like
>>> that.
>>>
>>> so, Jérôme, I would mostly just suggest that you make patches so
that
>>> the
>>> results sound fairly good no matter the input you give them, and
>>> optionally,
>>> if you can make the input also recognisable in the output, it's a
bonus
>>> feature that can feel very rewarding, but it depends on the
context...
>>> for
>>> feeding stockmarket data it may not matter as much, but for live
>>> interactive
>>> data from performers or visitors, they have to recognise their
own
>>> impact
>>> on
>>> the music, else the point is going to be lost on them, really.
but even
>>> for
>>> stockmarket data, it's better if you can recognise the stock
price in
>>> the
>>> music, because if you can't, you could have taken that data from
>>> anywhere
>>> else and it wouldn't matter, so why would you call it stockmarket
music
>>> then?...
>>>
>>> so maybe you wanted people to explain their actual processes, but
I
>>> hope
>>> that you will also enjoy this reflexion on the question of what
might
>>> make
>>> processes be good or not.
>>>
>>> _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ...
>>> | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801
>>>
>>
>>
--
Regards,
Jerome Covington
. . . . : . . . . :
"define audio development"
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