On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:39:38AM +0100, Thomas Grill wrote:
i'm sorry but i don't agree with that at all.
Not at all? You do agree to a certain degree... Let me explain more.
As a musician i have to have a proper instrument, be it a piano, a guitar or a computer with the appropriate software. It may cost money (instruments usually do) or it may not,
A computer is an instrument, and a software is like a music sheet. I buy computers because I can't make them, but I can program them.
I both like lo-fi _and_ hi-fi-music when it's properly done.
The hi-fi concept relates to the quality of reproduction, not production.
Never ever would come to my mind that buying an expensive instrument is elitist if it is necessary for doing a special kind of music.
Some people can't buy what you consider necessary to create a certain kind of music, so they create other kind of music because they have access to free tools that allows them to create their own music.
and i really don't understand how someone could call a professional-grade 500$ software elitist, with their makers providing great support.
Some people can't spend $500 for a software, and this amount of money is now enough to buy a good enough computer that runs PD for professional work. I also like the fact that it's possible to get three computers running PD for the price of a single Max equipped workstation.
On the other hand, my sympathies are also with PD because of the well-known facts like open-sourceness etc.
Don't stop, all that "etc" business is very interesting.
In fact, what i don't want is PD to be the poor man's Max, because it simply isn't
Rich people can make music with garbage cans, but my point is that usually poor people can't play a Stradivarius.
both systems are living side by side with their respective advantages.
I can't afford running Max and PD. Lucky you.
I'm quite sure that most of the people don't have a political but rather pragmatic approach to PD and would immediately start using a fast and feature-rich gui for PD once it's there.
Pragmatism and politic also can live side by side; I switched to free software for both reasons. I don't care much about a feature-rich gui for PD, but I'm also convinced it will exist one day. What I find really disturbing is the equation: "fancy gui = non elitist". It's like equating computer literacy to elitism. Scary...
And that will contain a ubumenu-like dropdown object.
Go Ubu!
Thanks for your constructive reply.
Marc