On May 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
what is so bad about, if you create [ADSR] that it comes as a nice little control gui with all the knobs already included? it is not true that words are "better" than images. and it is not
true that more information in a patch means "better". I think you are right from the viewpoint of a programming user, but users that just want higher level usuability want better graphics at least the *possibility* to add graphical UI features. but this is
quite a lot of work...Most of my patches only use a handful of Pd core objects, like maybe (guessing) 50 builtins and some externals. However on my disk there are hundreds of abstractions, that I use. If I would need to think of and design icons for each of these, I would not use abstractions and I would feel severly limited in what I could express with Pd. Concrete example: What icons should I use for the ~60 abstractions in the list-abs collection? It's no problem to express their functionality using words, but icons would be horribly confusing. Oh, and yes: I'm a programming user here, but I believe most Pd users are programming users, and the others rely on the work of programming users.
Pd definitely needs text, text is a great, flexible symbol system for
representing a massive array of words. But I also think that some
iconic objects would be nice, like jMax's trigger or Max/MSP's gate.
.hc
Ciao
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