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purest_json doesn't work on mac intel
by Patko nytkophilus 17 Mar '24

17 Mar '24

On mac intel when we open purest_json help patch, console shows this error: Library not loaded: @loader_path/libbrotlicommon.1.dylib this might be related to this issue: https://github.com/google/brotli/issues/934

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Seeking co-maintainers for Scheme for Pd
by Iain Duncan 17 Mar '24

17 Mar '24

Hello hackers, a couple of years ago I made Scheme for Pd, a sibling project of my Scheme for Max external that allows scripting Pd (and Max) in s7 Scheme. I'm now into a PhD and am (surprise, surprise) rather busy, but there are some things that could be done with the Pd version that would be interesting. In a nutshell, it's like a cross between Max's JS object (but able to run temporally accurate code) and Common Music 3 (much of which it can run, same Scheme interpreter). For the initial release, I was only interested in solo development as it was a master's project. This is a call to see if there are people interested in joining on the project so I can bring it back to life. It requires a fairly good understanding of writing externals in C and of Scheme. It does not (yet) do DSP, only message stuff. There are a number of recent developments in the Max version that would be neat to port over if there is interest. The project page is here: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd Some videos are here: https://www.youtube.com/c/musicwithlisp If you are interested, please email me as well as the list, at iainctduncan @{ the mail server that starts with G}.com thanks iain

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help files path, difference between startup flag and pdsettings
by cyrille henry 16 Mar '24

16 Mar '24

hello, I experience a strange problem I can not understand. for (pmpd) development purpose, I don't want to install it from deken, but use my local build. binary are in ~/pd/git/pd-pmpd/build help files are in ~/pd/git/pd-pmpd when I start : pd -noprefs -path ~/pd/git/pd-pmpd/build/ -path ~/pd/git/pd-pmpd everything is fine. but it did not work as expected using pdsettings. I remove the preference file for test purpose, to start with an empty file. I added the 2 paths. My preference file now is : audioapi: 1 noaudioin: False audioindev1: 0 2 audioindevname1: sof-hda-dsp (hardware) noaudioout: False audiooutdev1: 0 2 audiooutdevname1: sof-hda-dsp (hardware) audiobuf: 25 rate: 44100 callback: 0 audioblocksize: 64 midiapi: 0 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True path1: /home/chnry/pd/git/pd-pmpd/build path2: /home/chnry/pd/git/pd-pmpd npath: 2 standardpath: 1 verbose: 1 nloadlib: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: zoom: 1 loading: no My problem is that the help file is not find : tried /home/chnry/pd/git/pd-pmpd/build/pmpd.linux-amd64-32.so and succeeded tried /home/chnry/pd/git/pd-pmpd/build/pmpd-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd-help.pd and failed tried /home/chnry/.local/lib/pd/extra/pmpd-help.pd and failed tried /home/chnry/pd-externals/pmpd-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pmpd-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pmpd-help.pd and failed tried /home/chnry/pd/git/pd-pmpd/build/help-pmpd.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/help-pmpd.pd and failed tried /home/chnry/.local/lib/pd/extra/help-pmpd.pd and failed tried /home/chnry/pd-externals/help-pmpd.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/help-pmpd.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/help-pmpd.pd and failed sorry, couldn't find help patch for "pmpd" pd search only in the binary path, and in other standard paths, but not in the path declared the solution is to add in pdsettings : flags: -path ~/pd/git/pd-pmpd I understand that having binary and help file in different path is not expected, but why do pd behave differently using path in .pdsettings, than using path in startup flag ? Is that expected, or is it a bug? pd 0.54.1, compiled from source, ubuntu linux cheers c

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MPE in Pd Vanilla?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

I'm finally trying to get a hold of what the deal is with MIDI Polyphonic Expression, which is hard because I have no modern controller that uses it. So one question is does anyone know of a nice free open source software that can format, send and receive MPE so I can test some things? Now, only external I found in the wild was https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2117 and I'm trying to check it to see how things work. And now for the real subject. I know Pd can get MPE data from raw midi and even specialized objects like [ctlin], but that doesn't seem to me like the "real deal", even though I'm aware my knowledge is limited. I am thinking about a new external for ELSE, but it really looks like Vanilla should handle this. My point and idea is that Pd should better deal with it natively, whatever that actually means, I cannot put things in details yet... for reference, what I can say is that MAX has mpeparse and mpeformat objects, and I figure that Pd should also have something like that, by the way, I also opened an issue on github, see https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2117 what do you peple say? cheers

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Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet
by Peter P. 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Hi list, the help patch for [makenote] could mention that the object accepts a list in its leftmost inlet as well, or is this behavior taken for granted along all message-objects? thanks! P

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Re: [PD] Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet
by Peter P. 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Hi, here is a reply from Miller that might have bypassed the list. Peter ----- Forwarded message from Miller Puckette <mpuckette(a)cloud.ucsd.edu> ----- From: Miller Puckette <mpuckette(a)cloud.ucsd.edu> To: "Peter P." <peterparker(a)fastmail.com> Subject: Re: [PD] Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:41:48 -0400 Certain objects (like spigot or list) don't work this way.Â I don't think there's a hard-and-fast rule.Â Perhaps the ones that manage lists specially should be flagged as not distributing lists among inlets. cheers Miller On 3/14/24 17:36, Peter P. wrote: > * Roman Haefeli <reduzent(a)gmail.com> [2024-03-14 15:57]: > > On Thu, 2024-03-14 at 15:34 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > > > the help patch for [makenote] could mention that the object accepts a > > > list in its leftmost inlet as well, or is this behavior taken for > > > granted along all message-objects? > > > > > Yes, this my understanding. When list messages are received on the > > left-most inlet, the atoms are spread over the inlets. > > > > [9 7( > > | > > [- ] > > | > > [2 \ > Thanks Roman! > I knew about this with the simple math objects, but can someone confirm > that it does work for all objects? > > Best, P > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;… ----- End forwarded message -----

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updating translations
by IOhannes m zmölnig 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

in case you wonder how to contribute to Pd without being a coder, i would like to remind everybody of our translation project that aims at providing the Pd-interface in your favourite language (not the language). translations often get out of sync as the years pass by, so it's probably a good idea to check every now and then whether *your* language is still covering a 100% (and if not: do something about it) <https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/pure-data/pure-data/> gfmdsar IOhannes

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hid objects on linux/mac/win? hidraw on linux? hidraw parsing?
by Peter P. 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Dear list, I am trying to bring my knowledge of hid-related objects up to date for all three OSes. On Linux I can install [hid] 0.7 via Deken and use it as a normal user as a member of the 'input' users group. On Linux I can install [hidraw] 0.1.0 via Deken. The external loads without errors, but I am not getting any response clicking the "listdevices" message. On OS X there is [hid] 0.7.3 thanks to Albert. Colleagues have tried to find [hid] for their newer apple cpu's without success unless they start Pd under the Rosetta emulation and install Albert's amd64-32 package. Interestingly there exists a hid Deken package for Darwin-arm64-32 http://deken.puredata.info/library/hid/0.1.0 but it is not displayed in Pd's built-in search engine on OS X as far as I can remember (maybe someone can check this?). On Windows there is only [hidraw], correct? General question: What would be a reason to prefer [hidraw] over [hid]? How do I parse the output of [hidraw]? Thank you for any replies! best, Peter

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[PD-announce] Speculative Sound Synthesis Symposium 2024 - Call for Contributions
by David Pirrò 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Speculative Sound Synthesis Symposium 2024 26 - 28 September 2024, Graz, Austria Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics, University of Music and Performing Arts Graz https://speculative.iem.at/symposium/ Deadline: 2024-05-03 Speculative Sound Synthesis deals with the relationship between technology and artistic thinking in computer music. It attempts to productively destabilize this relationship by artistically questioning the standards of sound synthesis. The symposium program will feature two keynote presentations by invited speakers M. Beatrice Fazi (Contingent Computation, Rowman & Littlefield, 2018) and You Nakai (Reminded by the Instruments: David Tudor’s Music, Oxford University Press, 2020) Call for Contributions We are looking for artistic research contributions that investigate speculative approaches to sound synthesis, computation, and music technology. These contributions should explore aesthetic positions that offer alternative perspectives to standardized ways of thinking and creating. The symposium aims to unite speculative approaches that make computational processes perceptible and address the tension between contingency and control in artistic practice. Registration Registration to the Symposium is free and open to all. Authors, artists, and composers of accepted submission must register before 2024-06-16. General audience can register until 2024-09-01. Register by sending an email to speculative(a)iem.at. In case of need for family services and/or childcare, please indicate your interest when registering. Contribution Formats We welcome proposals that use a variety of formats, such as (but not limited to) live-performance, lecture-performance, paper presentation, fixed-media, installation, workshop, exhibition of objects/sounds etc. All submissions will be published online in a dedicated section of the project’s webpage. A selection of authors will be invited to contribute to an edition of “ECHO - journal of music, thought and technology” (https://echo.orpheusinstituut.be/) dedicated to Speculative Sound Synthesis, co-edited by organizers of the symposium and members of the Orpheus Institute. All information on how to submit is available at: https://speculative.iem.at/symposium/docs/call_for_contributions/ . Important dates Registration open: 2024-02-14 Deadline call for submissions: 2024-05-03 Notification of acceptance: 2024-05-31 Registration closes: 2024-06-16 Camera-ready submissions: 2024-06-30 Symposium starts: 2024-09-26 Symposium ends: 2024-09-28 The symposium will take place in Graz as part of the artistic research project Speculative Sound Synthesis, funded by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF) within the program for Arts-based research PEEK (AR 713-G). It is hosted by the Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM) at the University of Music and Performing Arts Graz (KUG). _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] RIP Ed Kelly
by Dan Wilcox 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

> On Mar 14, 2024, at 12:17 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:51:08 +0000 > From: Julian Brooks <lists+pd(a)julianbrooks.net <mailto:lists+pd@julianbrooks.net>> > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] RIP Ed Kelly > Message-ID: > <JG8KS7lPNKJs1ovfczTzaOp_zICLj3MePQckqg7dcpXQbi7PXfohO1RbuCuY7X2beT7l12wodkKTj663YsOxSu73ArHC2XtqIuMcm9010EE=(a)julianbrooks.net <mailto:JG8KS7lPNKJs1ovfczTzaOp_zICLj3MePQckqg7dcpXQbi7PXfohO1RbuCuY7X2beT7l12wodkKTj663YsOxSu73ArHC2XtqIuMcm9010EE=@julianbrooks.net>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ah man, genuinely saddened to hear this. > Had a few interactions with Ed, liked his work and he did much to spread the word re Pd, esp. around London (town). > May he Rest in Power > > Lucas, I got the sense that Dan was talking about code but also imagine (knowing Ed) that much of his music was/is free/open. The two are often deeply entwined anyway. Prolly not top of his family's thoughts atm, maybe something we can quietly do to secure what's out there & take it from there - your kind offer of server access being perfect for that... This was my thought, yes: the Metastudio abstractions and externals, if clearly licensed, could be hosted on Github for the future. I may look into this soon and see if it's possible. -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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