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Fwd: HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
by Linux ROUEN 18 Jul '23

18 Jul '23

Hello List, So few days later and after a lot of tests and support from several people, thanks to all of them, this is my current and temporary conclusion. Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 is not compatible with my HP laptop DV8-1190ef (14 years old with CPU i720Q 1st Gen) and its configuration running under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit when Pd Vanilla 0.53.2 is fully functional as well as the latest Purr Data 2.19.3. After having made a new summer in-depth cleaning of my PC, I retest the portable versions of Pd Vanilla (see here attached 2 screen captures). - Pd 0.53.2 = fully functional, but - Pd 0.54.0 = still not functional at all. As reported in my previous emails (CrashReport), it seems there is an issue with the Windows module ntdll.dll (announced as falling module) or at least the communication between Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 and this module. If I remember well, Lucas has suggested this could be linked to the new 64-bit windows build using the lower-latency WASAPI audio system in place of the older MMIO. Now I will wait for the next Pd 0.54.1 for making new tests. Im really pleased for those who are able to run Pd 0.54.0 on their Windows 10 machines. Best, Joseph Gastelais De : Linux ROUEN [mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr] Envoyé : samedi 8 juillet 2023 03:34 À : 'Pd-list' Objet : HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running! Hello Pd List, Under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit, the previous 3 versions 0.53.0, 0.53.1 and 0.53.2 of Pure Data Vanilla were working okay, but not the latest 0.54.0 version! I tried today to update to it using the pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe file from Millers site but after the installation trying to launch it nothing happens. Installation procedure (with antivirus disabled): - Uninstall Pd 0.53.2: okay - Install pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe: everything went well - Launch Pd 0.54.0: nothing happens! - Uninstall Pd 0.54.0: okay - Reinstall pd-0.53-2.windows-installer.exe: but lot of errors which was not the case previously! - Launch Pd 0.53.2: its opening?! See the attached zip file for the error messages. - Uninstall Pd 0.53.2: okay - Reinstall pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe: but now a lot of errors like with 0.53.2 reinstallation! - Launch Pd 0.54.0: still nothing happens!! See the attached zip file for the error messages. See also the attached Pd Bin & Font zip file for the folders content. Any idea what is going wrong with Pd 0.54.0 installation and now also with Pd 0.53.2 reinstallation? Everything seems to be broken! Thanks, Joseph Gastelais

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Mobmuplat bug...
by Simon Iten 12 Jul '23

12 Jul '23

Don’t know if mobmuplat is still developed further. I found a problem: When programatically switching to a specific page (x) of a GUI via setPage, the page is displayed halfway between page x and x+1 with no way to change pages anymore. This problem is happening on iOS 12.5.7 with an iPhone 6 in landscape mode. In portrait mode the problem is less pronounced, but the page is still not “fully” switched, so it is somewhere between x and x+1.

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Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
by Linux ROUEN 10 Jul '23

10 Jul '23

Hello Miller, Thanks for your reply. No more luck trying to launch Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 after my 3rd installation attempt under Windows 10. Installation procedure (with antivirus disabled): - Manually deleted "C:\Program Files\Pd" folder, - Manually deleted Pd Vanilla "StartMenu" entries, - Rebooted my PC, - Installed "pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe" file without any errors, . except a warning message at the beginning of the procedure stating that: "System tells there is already a Pd installation" which impossible! - At the end of the installation, ran Pure Data 0.54.0, but nothing happened! - In the Windows Tasks Manager, Wish is running but no Pd. See the attached zip file summarizing the above. Best, Joseph Gastelais -----Message d'origine----- De : Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] De la part de Miller Puckette Envoyé : samedi 8 juillet 2023 15:24 À : pd-list(a)lists.iem.at Objet : Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running! Well, first off I'd like to see if you can get back up and running 0.53 OK - then we can confidently try to figure out what happened with 0.54. I think the machine failed to un-install Pd 0.54 because it was running somehow without showing any windows. The fix for that would be to look in the "task manager" (open that using the famous control-alt-delete key combination) and find all copies of Pd that are running, and kill them. At that point an "uninstall" should work, but it would be simpler and more direct simply to delete the folder "\Program Files\Pd". Once that's done you should be able to install and run Pd 0.53 as it was working before. NExt step, since this is Windows, might be simply to reinstall 0.54 and try it again. If it doesn't immediately work then let's try together to figure out why and how to fix it :) Miller On 7/7/23 18:34, Linux ROUEN wrote: > > Hello Pd List, > > Under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit, the previous 3 versions 0.53.0, 0.53.1 > and 0.53.2 of Pure Data Vanilla were working okay, but not the latest > 0.54.0 version! > > I tried today to update to it using the > ‘pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe’ file from Miller’s site but after > the installation trying to launch it nothing happens. > > Installation procedure (with antivirus disabled): > - Uninstall Pd 0.53.2: okay > - Install ‘pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe’: everything went well > - Launch Pd 0.54.0: nothing happens! > - Uninstall Pd 0.54.0: okay > - Reinstall ‘pd-0.53-2.windows-installer.exe’: but lot of errors which > was not the case previously! > - Launch Pd 0.53.2: it’s opening?! > See the attached zip file for the error messages. > > - Uninstall Pd 0.53.2: okay > - Reinstall ‘pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe’: but now a lot of errors > like with 0.53.2 reinstallation! > - Launch Pd 0.54.0: still nothing happens!! > See the attached zip file for the error messages. > > See also the attached Pd Bin & Font zip file for the folders content. > > Any idea what is going wrong with Pd 0.54.0 installation and now also > with Pd 0.53.2 reinstallation? > Everything seems to be broken! > > Thanks, > Joseph Gastelais > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;… _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Prototype for adding an object browser into Pd Vanilla's core
by Alexandre Torres Porres 05 Jul '23

05 Jul '23

Hi everyone, I made a prototype of a GUI addition that I would really like to have included in the Pd-Vanilla distribution. I don't don;t think it is worth or plan to provide it as a tcl/tk plugin and I'll get to that soon. Nonetheless, as a prototype for anyone to easily test, I did upload object-browser-test-plugin to deken and you can get it. You can also check https://github.com/porres/object-browser-test-plugin And what does it do? When you right click anywhere on a patch canvas you can go to 'add object' which gives you a menu of all Pd objects that you can then choose from and it'll add the element exactly where you right clicked at. This is possible regardless if you're in edit or run mode. See screenshot below. [image: Screen Shot 2023-03-10 at 02.32.26.png] I got the idea and basis from Pd-ceammc, by the way. But PlugData is also working on something similar, why not offer an official one upstream? As someone who uses Pd to teach newbies all the time, I believe something like this would help them much more in the learning curve. The general consensus from users when I mentioned this on the facebook group (and other places) was quite positive. I understand though that there might be concerns in maintaining this and keeping the core light. Well, if it gets included, I plan to take care of it and do things like insert a new object whenever it comes up as long as I live. I am relatively young and don't have plans to die soon. This would be part of my documentation engagement. And once it is in, I guess the load won't be relevant. I think this is problematic to keep as a plugin as it'll mostly be missed by users. Another problem is that I think it is hard to maintain this out of the core and I say this because while my plugin works now, it is already broken for the current master on github, so it won't work on the next update. It really makes sense to keep this in the core then. By the way, it already includes the not yet released [snake~ in]/[snake~ out] objects, and when I wanted to test this with the latest current version is when I found out it breaks. But it works up to 0.53-2 (at least with its test version that you can find). And yes, I added options for objects that have a function defined by the 1st argument (such as [array random]), [snake~ in/out], ect). I also added options to add GUIs, message boxes, list box, etc... Is anyone bummed out and would have some sort of issue with this functionality? Worst case scenario I guess would be to allow some configuration in preferences to disable this, but I can't see this as an annoying addition. I think that even for me (someone who revised and wrote references for ALL objects) this is useful, as even I can forget the name of an object sometimes... what are your thoughts? cheers

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0.54-0test2 released
by Miller Puckette 04 Jul '23

04 Jul '23

I've released 0.54-0 test 2 - I think all the known show-soppers are taken care of... uness something appears broken I'll plan to make the 0.54-0release tomorrow. cheers Miller

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Re: [PD] 0.54-0test2 released
by Dan Wilcox 04 Jul '23

04 Jul '23

Congrats on the release all. Sorry, the timing was bad for me to do much this time around. I can do a libpd update in the meantime... > On Jul 3, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 21:09:06 -0700 > From: Miller Puckette <mpuckette(a)cloud.ucsd.edu <mailto:mpuckette@cloud.ucsd.edu>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: [PD] 0.54-0test2 released > Message-ID: <a1a45c48-c781-1e18-aac0-af7510b5ba17(a)cloud.ucsd.edu <mailto:a1a45c48-c781-1e18-aac0-af7510b5ba17@cloud.ucsd.edu>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I've released 0.54-0 test 2 - I think all the known show-soppers are > taken care of... uness something appears broken I'll plan to make the > 0.54-0release tomorrow. > > cheers > > Miller -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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[PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 released
by Miller Puckette 04 Jul '23

04 Jul '23

To Pd announce: Pd version 0.54-0 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data . cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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